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    Prosecution of Maryland wiretapping laws can be really harsh. I predict they prosecute him for it-- even though he handled it perfectly--- ohhhh you don't want me to record you.... well, then I'll move over there.... and I wasn't recording you, you approached me.

    But, I predict they'll go after him anyway (or at least I wouldn't be surprised)-- even if they lose.

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    Could be an anti-terrorist thing, also. IIRC, I read somewhere that Al-Qaeda was looking at disrupting train traffic.
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    The whole idea that terrorists are going to show up and photograph things with conspicuous camera gear prior to an attack is the stuff of prime time TV action drama programs.

    Universal harassment is not a good terror-plot stopping strategy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by u18b View Post
    Prosecution of Maryland wiretapping laws can be really harsh. I predict they prosecute him for it-- even though he handled it perfectly--- ohhhh you don't want me to record you.... well, then I'll move over there.... and I wasn't recording you, you approached me.

    But, I predict they'll go after him anyway (or at least I wouldn't be surprised)-- even if they lose.
    I'd be hard pressed to see how they could get him on that. Very hard to prove that his recording of a public conversation that was conducted in public area would be unlawful. If that were the case then anybody filming/recording anything in public could be prosecuted wiretapping.

    But I could be wrong…

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    The biggest mistake I saw...they asked him numerous times for ID. He refused to produce the ID. Yes...they can detain you until they can ascertain you are who you say you are. JMO.

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    I liked when the one cop caught him on "editorializing" (and he was correct).

    On the showing of ID, this is tricky. He didn't have to (and appears never to have), yet these cops, erroneously, had reasonable suspicion so were within some case law to ask. Since they were in error, his failure to show ID would not have led to a valid detainment.

    The advice is to ask the officer "Excuse me, am I free to go?" If yes, leave (though in his case, he was waiting for the train!). In states with stop-and-identify laws, if the answer is "no", then you are detained, which requires a reasonable suspicion of criminal activity, and it may (or may not) be in your best interest to provide ID. But, since there is no requirement to carry identification....

    I found the final comments in the video, about the Amtrak police, interesting, too. I wonder if the MTA cop was still there when he said there was nothing wrong with taking pictures.
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    Chris Fussell is a friend of mine, and highly respected for his rail photography skills here in the Pacific NW. He has created and maintains the Oregon Rail Heritage Foundation and Friends of the 4449 websites. Chris is seriously hearing-impaired to the point that he needs signing from friends who are capable of doing so. These cops were no more than bullies from what I saw in the videos. :tb-sad:

    Oh yeah, and where were the cops when the MEDIA people showed up on their platforms and filmed their story?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SinCity View Post
    Could be an anti-terrorist thing, also. IIRC, I read somewhere that Al-Qaeda was looking at disrupting train traffic.
    After they got bin Laden, I read where Al Queda had been looking into attacking trains. My first thought was "oh no, if it was hard to take photos of trains before, we ain't seen nothing yet". Sad.

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