Thread: E R Models
February 18th, 2010, 02:04 AM #11
That beautiful picture of Pete's proved very expensive for me! :-)
I now have an ABBA set of NYC lightning stripes and an AA set of D&H's. I found that I had to do a lot of trimming on the side frames once I guaged the wheels properly. The molded brake assemblies rubbed on the wheels. However, it was worth the effort. They run beautifully now on my Atlas code 55. They couple closely with MT's and the detailing is very nice.
I paid about $25 a piece for the engines (used) and they're well worth it.
May 4th, 2010, 05:16 PM #12
I haven't had any problems with them yet, except for the noise, but it does seem to be the worst when I only run a single unit by itself, especially if you have the throttle completely wound out. They seem to be naturally slow geared, so turning the throttle up to the highest notch (as some people like to do) doesn't really make them go faster, it just makes the motor turn faster and start screaming.
I'm really just curious if they'll be okay for the long run just running them out of the box, or not. I've thought maybe putting a little oil on the gears would be advisable. However, I don't even know how some guys manage to find the hidden problems in them, let alone fix them. For example, I doubt I'd have the first idea how identify if the wheels were improperly gauged, or if anything was rubbing on the brake assemblies.
May 4th, 2010, 08:13 PM #13
If they're running well on your track and through your turnouts you don't need to worry about the guage. All six of mine needed guage adjustment (use an NMRA N scale guage--most hobby shops or e-tailers will have them) to run reliably on code 55. When you hold the loco upside down, you can tell if the wheels are rubbing on the side frames/brake detail. If not, again don't worry about it. When I re-guaged my wheels they would rub, therefore the above mentioned filing.
Oiling will probablyl not make the engines run quieter. They're just delightfully "growly" as they pull the long trains.
Last edited by Bob Morris; May 4th, 2010 at 11:55 PM.
May 4th, 2010, 11:33 PM #14Confirmed TrainBoard Member
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I have a pair of these. Same comments as the others here. I love 'em, though. Always loved the Sharks. Planning to wire in Silver Mini decoders.
May 5th, 2010, 04:50 PM #15
May 6th, 2010, 04:34 PM #16
Maybe repaint them in the D&H colours, so that the grills match the rest of the body, ha-ha.
May 7th, 2010, 05:17 AM #17Confirmed TrainBoard Member
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These made the scene a few years ago, and the scuttlebutt was that these were from an oldie N mfr named Roco, who made some nice locos in the eighties and nineties. Then it came out that Bachmann made these for E-R. I had a friend who bought one and hated them for "every reason in the book", which sort of swayed me.
Based on some of the responses above, I just might splurge for a PRR ABBA set if I can find one, and take the chance.
As a kid I used to watch PRR Sharks bring in large coal drags through Sharpsville, Pa on its way to Sharon Steel just down the tracks. I loved their designs after getting into N, so I bought some aftermarket shells and installed them on Atlas/Kato RS3 mechanisms. I am lucky to have a factory painted set of PRR's, NYC's and an undec which I am trying to decide what to color it.
Ken "FloridaBoy" Willaman
May 8th, 2010, 02:42 AM #18Confirmed TrainBoard Member
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I worked on these units for E-R, correcting the tooling drawings which were more a blend of several different models than the way they turned out. I didn't have anything to do with the mechanisms but I've run the units on the Reid Brothers Cumberland Valley System and they are very reliable good pullers.
Technically, they weren't made by Bachmann.... their parent company Kader made them and they do contract work for many different companies. The execution on the Sharks is still better than most Bachmann units. Bachmann is offering them under their label since E-R was driven into bankruptcy due to an unfortuneate stillborn partnership with Roco.
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