November 7th, 2008, 05:43 AM #1
DCC decoder in Märklin Pacific/Mikado steam
I put a DCC decoder in my 2 Märklin steamers. I also wanted firebox flicker. Robert Ray has done this before and has archive photos. Decoders are smaller now so much easier.
Lenz Silver Mini, Digitrax DZ125 or CT Elektronik are the only ones that will fit under the cab roof. CT Elektronik is the smallest but will have unfamiliar values for many CV's beside the standard NMRA ones. Lenz defaults BEMF on and it does really strange things with Märklin motors !! Lenz and CT only have 0,5A motor current rating and Märklin motors are all over the place current-wise. They typically draw at LEAST 0.1A, many draw 0.2A and motors that are heading for failure can easily draw up to 0.5A so be careful with any decoder. Digitrax easily fits and can handle up to 1A but I wouldn't trust that spec. BEMF is NOT turned on with Digitrax.
Cut the inside cab roof tab. Observe all the locations that could make contact with the decoder wires. Make sure you put tape inside the shell to prevent shorts. DO NOT PUT TAPE ON THE DECODER ! The yellow tape below is to hold in place while I solder everything.
Cut the wires from the frame pick up to the motor. Careful because the capacitor wires that hold the brush tension can also now slide out. Use tweazers if you have to put them back in.
Solder the red and black power pickups to the frame leads. Red to the right.
Solder the grey and orange wires onto the motor and insulate. Orange to the right.
Should look like this:
LED headlight next.
November 7th, 2008, 05:57 AM #2
The LED head light is easy but the wires to it have to be small. Some decoder wire is but most are not. TEST FIRST !
The incandescent lamp mounts sort of low on the front. I mounrted a large LED so that it illuminated well (not bright, but distributed) and did not have to be so specific about location. I put a piece of Kapton tape over it to make that ideal very sligthly yellowish incandescant color. There is not a lot of room in the shell so I mounted the LED resistor to the LED itself, on top:
Firebox flicker next.
November 7th, 2008, 06:29 AM #3
The firebox flicker LEDs were a pain. There is a small gap between the shell and the sides of the motor. Good start. I had some side mount amber LEDs great. I mounted then right at the shell's bottom edge, out of sight but as low as I could to get light out of them. You really do not see the light intensitiy of the incandescants so you have to get them as low as you can.
The LED is the horizontal metallic band with the translucent half round below it.
The motor housing is plastic so I CA'd the LEDs to it. MAKE SURE YOU PLAN THE POLARITIES (and the opposite side's polartity ! ) The frame is metal so I used Kapton tape to insulate.
Since there was is little room, I used a surface mount resistor right on the LED with Kapton under it so it doesn't short to the metal frame. Actually, you can connect any of the Function lamps tp the motor frame (track power) but the brightness will be about 1/2. But in this case, I can't solder to that large frame !
I wanted as much light and because the firebox is in the middle of the cab / boiler, I put an LED on the other side and wired in series. There wasn't an easy way to get the wire over to the other side I just went through the motor's brush area.
LED's are about 1.5 volt each so two in series is about 3 volts. DCC function voltage is at least 10V, maybe as much as 12. Use 12 for easy math - 3 volts for the LEDs leaves 9V and I wanted 100 milliamps (0.1A) thru the LEDS Lets round down to 90 ma (0.09A) and we get 0.1K (1oo) ohms. R(ohms) = Volts / Current(amps).
November 7th, 2008, 06:43 AM #4
Thanks for posting this! The photos really help. :thumbs_up:Eddie P. Sarber
November 7th, 2008, 12:56 PM #5
Jeff, this is going to very useful to newbies getting into dcc. There is nothing better then pictures on how to do it.JOHN
November 7th, 2008, 02:06 PM #6
Thanks for the photos and the great work Jeff. My next DCC projects are a Marklin 4-6-0 and a 2-8-2.
November 7th, 2008, 03:24 PM #7
Nice work Jeff! You make it look so simple!If you see it, get it, for tomorrow it will be gone!
November 7th, 2008, 04:03 PM #8
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That looks nice, it has been a while since anyone talked about some DCC stuff here. For the LED current I think you meant 10ma and 1K. Can you post some videos of this loco running on dcc with the lights and special effects ON...
November 7th, 2008, 06:08 PM #10
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