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oldrk
June 4th, 2007, 01:15 AM
I have been thinking about trying to scratch build an N scale C&O AS 616( I know, insanity). I have been looking at pictures and noticed there are at least a couple of handrail differences. Any comments?
Tim Loutzenhiser
June 5th, 2007, 04:24 AM
Wish I had more info on this - just be sure to paint 'em yellow.
I'll post a picture of an AS616 if you need it...
Flash Blackman
June 6th, 2007, 04:20 AM
I would like to see a picture. I don't think scratch building is very practical. I think one has been made in H0 scale?
Tim Loutzenhiser
June 6th, 2007, 04:03 PM
Here's a Dick Argo photo from Chesapeake & Ohio Diesel Locomotives in Color 1949-1971 by Jerry Doyle. AS616 # 5567, July 1961:
http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/data/530/AS616_1.jpg
Used with permission and courtesy of the Chesapeake & Ohio Historical Society.
Triplex
June 6th, 2007, 11:42 PM
Looks like it's an early-production unit - the kind I think of when I think AS-616. In fact, in my mind, the early AS-616 is the definitive Baldwin diesel.

Stewart made an HO AS-616; I'm not sure what phase.
JDLX
June 7th, 2007, 06:06 AM
The locomotive in the photo is a mid-production AS-616. You can tell by the thickened frame that required those notches cut into the bottom so that the brake cylinders on the trucks could swing out. Early AS-616's (and the DRS-6-6-1500 before it) had a much thinner frame that did not require this notch. The Stewart HO model depicts the earlier thin-framed units. In 1953 Baldwin completely redesigned the AS-616, with the different trucks and both hoods raised to the level of the cab roof.

I have a few photos of Baldwin diesels on my websites at the following:

http://www.trainweb.org/mccloudrails (click on Locomotive Roster, then scroll down to diesels 28, 29, 34, 35, and 1st 36).

http://www.trainweb.org/highdesertrails/onw.html (Many photos of the Oregon & Northwestern Baldwins on those pages).

Jeff Moore
Elko, NV
oldrk
June 7th, 2007, 03:11 PM
Notice the difference in the handrails and louvers.http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/data/500/AS-616.jpg
Tim Loutzenhiser
June 8th, 2007, 02:09 AM
Almost makes me think that if you were really creative, you might be able to bash one using an old MRC RSD15???
Triplex
June 8th, 2007, 03:22 AM
How close would an Atlas RSD-4/5 mechanism be?
oldrk
June 8th, 2007, 04:27 AM
I have a secret. I already have those wacky sideframes for the trucks. Ha!
Triplex
June 8th, 2007, 03:28 PM
Did you get them by modifying some tender trucks? Some steam engines have trucks that look a lot like those...
oldrk
June 8th, 2007, 04:03 PM
i got them on ebay.turns out it was the same guy here on tb who makes the little climax kits.
Kitbash
September 28th, 2007, 02:54 AM
I would like to see a picture. I don't think scratch building is very practical. I think one has been made in H0 scale?

Here ya go Flash'. Yes, Stewart made one. I have it in two road numbers. Here's #5535 pulling a small freight under the Cholly Gap road bridge on my layout.

http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/data/1631/upload25.jpg