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Grandffiti_Central_Station
March 7th, 2007, 03:21 AM
What, in your opinion, is the favorite steam locomotive class C&O had besides the 2-6-6-6 among railfans?

Stourbridge Lion
March 7th, 2007, 03:28 AM
http://www.trainweb.org/rradventures/images/1999-10-16_BO_Museum/aao.jpg (http://www.trainweb.org/rradventures/1999/10-16_BO_Museum-aao.htm)
C&O Streamliner #490

Grandffiti_Central_Station
March 7th, 2007, 03:31 AM
That is probably my all-time favorite as well. The only problem is I can't draw it because of the C&O logo up on the nose. The ones I listed above all just have lettering on the tenders and no logo's so there isn't any copyright infringment when I draw it. Otherwise I would be doing that one now along with the M-1.

Stourbridge Lion
March 7th, 2007, 03:35 AM
http://www.trainweb.org/rradventures/images/1999-10-16_BO_Museum/aal.jpg (http://www.trainweb.org/rradventures/1999/10-16_BO_Museum-aal.htm)
C&O Allegheny Type #1604

Stourbridge Lion
March 7th, 2007, 03:37 AM
http://www.trainweb.org/rradventures/images/1999-10-16_BO_Museum/aaj.jpg (http://www.trainweb.org/rradventures/1999/10-16_BO_Museum-aaj.htm)
C&O 2-6-6-2 #1309

Grandffiti_Central_Station
March 7th, 2007, 03:37 AM
Yep, love those as well, that is why it was the first one I drew. I can't quite tell the number but I am assuming it is a 2-6-6-6.

Grandffiti_Central_Station
March 7th, 2007, 03:40 AM
What is the engine number of the 2-6-6-2 in post #5. Thank you for posting these, it should help the poll out.

Stourbridge Lion
March 7th, 2007, 03:41 AM
What is the engine number of the 2-6-6-2 in post #5. Thank you for posting these, it should help the poll out.

I've added the road numbers under each image for you...

Sizemore
March 7th, 2007, 06:08 AM
You're missing the most important class of them all Kanawah Berks.... They were probably the most modern steam on the road....

T

Matthew Roberts
March 7th, 2007, 01:27 PM
2-10-4s are the best no matter what railroad. Except that the Texas & Pacific Texas-types are the best 2-10-4s!

Then there's the UP 4-12-2s, a class of their own!

oldrk
March 7th, 2007, 09:15 PM
I was suprised the 2-8-4 wasnt in the pole. I would love to see a Texas made in n scale.

Grandffiti_Central_Station
March 7th, 2007, 10:32 PM
I guess I should have given more information as to what this poll was about. This was a census to see what would be the more popular of the classes I supplied. I was wanting a nice second engine to draw to make a good pairing with my 2-6-6-6 I just finished and have posted shots of up in "The Ready Track" section.

There are only 2 types of locomotives I currently like doing, big chunky powerful ones and streamliners.

I only included the 4-6-4 because the refrence I have read on them indicated they were the largest Hudson's ever built. I didn't know if they were as popular to the C&O fans as the J3a's are to the NYC bunch. Otherwise it would not have made my list, not nearly big enough and the poll is showing it isn't favored as well.

The 4-8-4 is also one of the largest built for its class. It is right up there in size to the Santa Fe Notherns, which were the largest built. At over 500,000 pounds in weight and over 115' in length it was a no-brainer for me to put on the list.

The 2-10-4 was also an easy choice for my size qualificatons.

The H6 almost didn't make my list. I was surprised to see how small it actually was. It wasn't even over 100 feet in length. The only reason it is on there is because it is an articulated and I like doing them. The UK Beyer-Garratt I did a drawing of a few months ago is even longer that the H6 and it is a narrow guage locomotive.

I was really not impressed with the selection I had to choose from for subject matter. I LOVE the 2-6-6-6 and am finally glad I got one done but at this point it may be the only one. The 2-8-4, no matter how popular it is, just doesn't do it for me. There is nothing unique or special about the class, they just had a bunch of them. Maybe someday, once I run out of really massive and eye catching locomotives, I might get around to doing the smaller class of locomotives but not for right now.

I think what I might have to do is go with my original plan and pair it off, for the printers, with the D&RGW Challenger I have been doing research on.

Tim Loutzenhiser
March 8th, 2007, 01:54 AM
I couldn't vote because there is no doubt in my mind 2-8-4 Bershire/Kanawha!!! Seriously, consider that the 2-8-4 was the first truly modern evolution of the "super power" steam locomotive. I can still remember as a kid going past the Nickle Plate 765 on dislay in Fort Wayne Indiana. Today I have the old Pere Marquette/C&O Fremont subdivision in my backyard - and how I wish I could have seen one of the 2-8-4s heading between Grand Rapids and Chicago. Personally, I just think that the Van Sweringen brothers' class N Berkshires were more attractive than the K-4 Kanawhas. I have an HO scale Pere Marquette Berk 1222 on the fireplace mantle - and above it is the painting "Passing Time" by Dave Barnhouse with C&O 2700. And 20 minutes to the north of me sits Pere Marquette 1223 - maybe one day she'll live again!

Grandffiti_Central_Station
March 8th, 2007, 02:40 AM
I couldn't vote because there is no doubt in my mind 2-8-4 Bershire/Kanawha!!! Seriously, consider that the 2-8-4 was the first truly modern evolution of the "super power" steam locomotive. I can still remember as a kid going past the Nickle Plate 765 on dislay in Fort Wayne Indiana. Today I have the old Pere Marquette/C&O Fremont subdivision in my backyard - and how I wish I could have seen one of the 2-8-4s heading between Grand Rapids and Chicago. Personally, I just think that the Van Sweringen brothers' class N Berkshires were more attractive than the K-4 Kanawhas. I have an HO scale Pere Marquette Berk 1222 on the fireplace mantle - and above it is the painting "Passing Time" by Dave Barnhouse with C&O 2700. And 20 minutes to the north of me sits Pere Marquette 1223 - maybe one day she'll live again!

Can you post a photo of the N class and the K-4? If possible side views would help so I can see the details. Also, how many did they have of each type?

Thank you for the help

Tim Loutzenhiser
March 8th, 2007, 03:58 AM
I can't do it tonight, but tomorrow I'll come up with some shots for you.
The C&O K-4s were built by Alco and Lima - I think there were 90 of them. The Pere Marquette Class N was built by Lima and there were 39 of them. The Nickle Plate was a Class S (I think) built by Alco. I believe all had 69" drivers, some later getting 70" drivers.

oldcook43
March 8th, 2007, 04:37 AM
I'll take one of each in N scale!

Tim Loutzenhiser
March 8th, 2007, 04:37 PM
I don't know about the N versions, but Walthers has an add in some magazines recently advertising the HO 2-8-4 "Berkshire" - 3rd Series.
Apparently They will be available in these versions:
C&O Class K-4C
Pere Marquette Class N-2 with forward mounted sand dome!!!
Nickle Plate Class S-3 with Mars Light
Unlettered
All are available with sound and DCC or in standard DC no sound.

Tim Loutzenhiser
March 8th, 2007, 11:21 PM
Here is a sample page from C&O Power by Alvin F. Staufer (Philip Shuster, Eugene L. Huddleston and Alvin Staufer) 1965. This wonderful book is a must have for every C&O fan. This page shows the various configurations of C&O 2-8-4s
http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/data/522/thumbs/284b.jpg (http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showphoto.php/photo/49280)

skipgear
March 9th, 2007, 01:02 AM
Here is a Berkshire shot, up close and personal. I couldn't get a better profile shot because it is in a fenced in area.

http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/data/1403/C_O_2716_Berkshire_2.JPG

Tim Loutzenhiser
March 9th, 2007, 02:26 AM
Here's a couple shots of Pere Marquette 1223 in Grand Haven, Michigan in August 2006.
http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/data/522/thumbs/P8150885a.jpg (http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showphoto.php/photo/49306)
http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/data/522/thumbs/P8150882a.jpg (http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showphoto.php/photo/49305)

Grandffiti_Central_Station
March 14th, 2007, 07:22 PM
Thank you for the pictures! I will have to see how the voting goes and decide from there. Had to put the project on hold a bit as I get the UP stuff wrapped up that I have been needing to get to. Probably get back to this set next month.

Thank you again