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HemiAdda2d
July 27th, 2006, 05:23 PM
Let's see your Great Northern Steamers!!

Helena, MT is where Otto Perry captured this oddball wheel arrangement 2-6-8-0:

http://photoswest.org/photos/00011751/00011868.jpg

BoxcabE50
July 27th, 2006, 08:23 PM
I'd love to hear an audio recording of this engine. Am wondering if it had a special sound...

:D

Boxcab E50

Flash Blackman
July 27th, 2006, 08:28 PM
Looks like a compound engine because the front cylinders are larger than the rear. OTOH, that may just be the appearance. I always considered the compounds types as luggers for the heavy stuff and the simple engines as being faster.

HemiAdda2d
July 27th, 2006, 08:38 PM
You may be correct.. GN rebuilt some if not all of their compound 2-6-8-0's into simple engines during their careers.

Kurt Moose
July 28th, 2006, 08:28 AM
For all out hauling, you coud'nt beat an R-2 2-8-8-2:teeth: They would pull anything!

HemiAdda2d
July 28th, 2006, 12:38 PM
Pretty danged powerful, 153,000#..

The 'Big Boy' UP engines are listed at ONLY 135K... The Virginian engines are just sick... 200K #?!?
http://www.steamlocomotive.com/misc/largest.shtml

Triplex
July 28th, 2006, 06:18 PM
That's what you get with 12 driving axles!

BoxcabE50
July 28th, 2006, 06:40 PM
Looks like a compound engine because the front cylinders are larger than the rear. OTOH, that may just be the appearance. I always considered the compounds types as luggers for the heavy stuff and the simple engines as being faster.

Yes. It's a compound. With those stacked cylinders, isn't this a double compound? The front cylinders could be larger. If it's re-using (lower pressure) steam. Then it needs greater volume.

:D

Boxcab E50

HemiAdda2d
July 30th, 2006, 02:46 AM
Here's a classy lady, a 4-8-4 Northern type:
Otto Perry strikes again....

http://photoswest.org/photos/00011876/00011923.jpg

HemiAdda2d
July 30th, 2006, 02:49 AM
Otto Perry bagged a 2-8-8-2 at Marias Pass in 1939...
These monsters outmuscled about 20,000# higher tractive effort than a UP Big Boy!!

http://photoswest.org/photos/00011876/00011890.jpg

Kurt Moose
August 1st, 2006, 02:32 AM
Now, if I could just get one of those R-2's in Z-scale!! :rolleyes:

BoxcabE50
August 1st, 2006, 03:59 AM
Now, if I could just get one of those R-2's in Z-scale!! :rolleyes:

Well, if I had my druthers, make it a Class W electric motor.....

:D

Boxcab E50

Kurt Moose
August 3rd, 2006, 06:09 AM
That would be a heck of alot easier with two GN painted F7's on the body of a Marklin GG1!:teeth:

HemiAdda2d
August 3rd, 2006, 06:19 AM
#5011, eh? They were FT carbdies, as I recall..

Kurt Moose
August 3rd, 2006, 08:58 PM
Close enough in Z!:teeth: Clean of the roof fans and put the GG1 pantographs on, and different grills on the sides. And tada, a Y1a!:cool:

BoxcabE50
August 3rd, 2006, 10:31 PM
That would be a heck of alot easier with two GN painted F7's on the body of a Marklin GG1!

That would be a Y class. Y-1a? I was thinking of the two big W-1 units. 5018, 5019.

:D

Boxcab E50

Gabriel
August 3rd, 2006, 10:43 PM
Can we say Yee-Haa???


Otto Perry bagged a 2-8-8-2 at Marias Pass in 1939...
These monsters outmuscled about 20,000# higher tractive effort than a UP Big Boy!!

http://photoswest.org/photos/00011876/00011890.jpg

Kurt Moose
August 4th, 2006, 07:35 AM
You can only imagine what the ground felt like!!!:teeth:

HemiAdda2d
August 14th, 2006, 11:50 PM
I can only imagine what that thunder felt like...

From the largest GN steam, to one of the smallest:

Otto Perry:

http://photoswest.org/photos/00011751/00011796.jpg

BoxcabE50
August 16th, 2006, 04:31 AM
After looking at previous photos, looks like someone stole half an R class engine.....

:D

Boxcab E50

SDP45
August 17th, 2006, 04:58 AM
Don't forget the O8 Mikados were the most powerful of their type.

Is there a photo out there?

Those R2 2-8-8-2s were built in Spokane. Too bad the Hillyard shops are long gone!

swdw
October 1st, 2006, 09:51 PM
Anyone have a drawing with dimensions of the R-2? The GN Empire site has drawings of the N-3 and N-2, but no R-2's.

Funny thing is the N-3 is only a couple feet longer than an S-2 w/o the tenders, so I was wondering what the length of the R-2 was with and w/o the tender. Kinda lets you kow how big the Northerns were.

Also, did the Q-2 2-10-2 have a Belpaire firebox?