Any Pennsylvania Railroad fans left...

[Stourbridge Lion]

I'm sure there must be but nothing has been posted here since July 19, 2005...

:( :( :( :( :(

[Kurt Moose]

Kricket, kricket. :rolleyes: Dont feel bad, it's the same over on the GN too! graemlins/shakehead.gif

[Alan]

Shame, but I will be releasing a new kit of a Pennsy 50ft flatcar soon ;) So the Pennsy is not forgotten smile.gif

[Crandy]

I'm modeling the Pennsy in N Scale circa the early 50s. Does anyone know if the Pennsy had a "standard" catenary design/style? I'm not a detail purist, but I'd like to find a compromise between a catenary design that is reasonably easy to construct and somewhat prototypical. If anyone knows the location of a photograph of same I'd certainly be interested in hearing about it. The few photos I've been able to locate appear to show no common design trends.

[Stourbridge Lion]

We currently don't have a Moderator for this forum that should have this kind of information but I will see if I can dig up something that might help if the other moderators don't have the information already.

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[eddelozier]

You can count me as a PRR fan. Model N-scale PRR. Born and raised in Altoona, PA during the 40's and 50's......lots of steam running then.

Crandy,
I have used 'Plastic' "H" rail strips in N-scale to make my Catenary poles. It's not too hard but can become time consuming when over 100 needed.
Pole is "H" beam, cross beam is smaller "H" and the support beams above cross are made from black thread. The springs hold the wire and allow movement.
I removed the wire some time ago to ease working on the layout, plus I never fully tried to make them hot.


Home town car:
http://users.rcn.com/albi/Trains/Altoonacar%5b1%5d.jpg


My kitbashed PRR FF-2 :
http://users.rcn.com/albi/Trains/TPIC1.JPG

...Eddie

[Crandy]

Eddie
Thanks for the info and the pix! Great shots!! Spentsome time with Grandparents at 311 5th Ave in Altoona. Many relatives worked in the shops. I don't intend to power the catenary so that gives me some latitude. I saw a great idea to use small white craft beads to look like insulators.

Livin' the dream in Brunswick Green.

[PRR1957]

PRR fan here, but even clearer memories of PC.

My father had over 40 years service. He started with PRR, then PC then Conrail. My grandfather (his dad) had 50 years service on the PRR. I can still see his 50 year award certificate, in my mind, that hung on his wall in his bedroom.

I used to go frequently with him & have many memories. He passed away 16 December, 2005 ... just a couple of days ago.

So, the Pennsy fans are here ... we're just a quiet bunch I guess.

Anything PRR or PC catches my attention.

Blessings & best wishes,

Pastor Dave

[Stourbridge Lion]

I for one would love to see posts throughout the year about the PRR for those that can share images, stories, etc.

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[BoxcabE50]

Originally posted by eddelozier:
My kitbashed PRR FF-2 : Is that a Kato chassis? Do you plan on string live catenary?

:D

Boxcab E50

[Michael R, New York]

PRR Fan right here and Z Scaler to boot!

I never even saw this forum or knew of its existence, or any of the fallen flags forums because they are always collapsed by default!!!

Maybe we can convince the Board owners to expand them once more?

Michael

[Michael R, New York]

May his memory be a blessing to you always.

Originally posted by PRR1957:
PRR fan here, but even clearer memories of PC.

My father had over 40 years service. He started with PRR, then PC then Conrail. My grandfather (his dad) had 50 years service on the PRR. I can still see his 50 year award certificate, in my mind, that hung on his wall in his bedroom.

I used to go frequently with him & have many memories. He passed away 16 December, 2005 ... just a couple of days ago.

So, the Pennsy fans are here ... we're just a quiet bunch I guess.

Anything PRR or PC catches my attention.

Blessings & best wishes,

Pastor Dave

[maintainance in the way]

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[chessie]

Glad to see that the Pennsy is not totally forgotten...

[Michael R, New York]

I think part of the problem with the whole "Fallen Flags" forum is that it is collapsed. I didn't even realize it was here until 10 months into membership on the board.

I know there are a lot of forums, but it would be nice if they were uncollapsed.

Michael

[r_i_straw]

Originally posted by Michael R, New York:
I think part of the problem with the whole "Fallen Flags" forum is that it is collapsed. Sometimes it takes a while for new comers to find them but most stumble on them via the 24 Hours of Trainboard button at the bottom of each page. I always check there for what topics are hot and invariably there are a few Fallen Flags that pop up.

[chessie]

I think a lot of folks admire or revere the Pennsy, but maybe it is more prevalent in modeling groups... :confused:

[Stourbridge Lion]

I wonder if people recall how we lost a major Penn Central Station. They turned there back, and it was torn down before they stopped to complain. We as Railfans need to help keep the memories of the Fallen Flags alive otherwise they will be forgotten and lost to time; as if they never were here.

This is why I'm always asking if we have "Any ... Railroad fans left..." for any of our Fallen Flag forums that go without a post for several weeks. It's kind of my small challenge to the other Fallen Flag moderators to keep there forums going by posting something about that railroad.

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[chessie]

Hey, we still have some stray GP38's showing up on NS that have not been retired.. Does that mean Pennsy?

[Stourbridge Lion]

Yes!

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[Stourbridge Lion]

Last activity was PRR 643 back in steam! (http://www.trainboard.com/grapevine/showthread.php?t=76672) back on April 26th, 2006

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

[inch53]

There's one more PRR fan here in ILL.
Been looking for info on the old PRR line between Terre Haute,IND and ST. LOUIS,MO.
I've lived along it most of 53 years and can't find much of it's history.
inch53

[Michael R, New York]

One right here on Long Island!

[Ray H.]

Last activity was PRR 643 back in steam! (http://www.trainboard.com/grapevine/showthread.php?t=76672) back on April 26th, 2006

:cry: :cry: :cry:

I just added another. We'll get this forum populated yet. :shade:


Ray

[Pete Nolan]

I'm here now. I knew this was here, I was just busy elsewhere. A large collection of N scale Pennsy stuff.

[bambuko]

...I will be releasing a new kit of a Pennsy 50ft flatcar soon ;) So the Pennsy is not forgotten ...
hopefully in Z as well?
Chris

[Pennsy Rob]

I would also like to see this in HO scale as well!

[jenersea]

I am looking for information on the old Pennsy Cumberland Valley Branch. Especially info on the last passenger train that was run on the line from Hagerstown to Winchester. What was the consist? Did K4s run on this line? What year did service end? I grew up in Martinsburg and used to see Geep 9s and an SW1 that was based at Cumbo yard. Please direct me to the best place to find out this info. Thanks.

[Calicoaster]

Does this count? I have a new 30s/40s era HO Pennsy GG1 with matching Heavyweight set.

[MOPACJAY]

While I love the Mopac, I have the Pennsy in my blood.My great-grandfather worked for the Pennsy as a track inspector in the Grovertown, Indiana area.He worked for over 40 years for The Standard Railroad of the World, and somewhere there is a certificate to that effect,although no-one seems to know where it is :(

[Stourbridge Lion]

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[ditSteve]

Add another PRR fan to the list. I've been on and off these boards for quite a few years, but I have never been a prolific poster. This is mainly due to the fact that I don't have a model yet, and since I am currently working in Indonesia (any train shows coming my way soon :)) I won't have one for a while.

I do want to model the PRR and some Reading stuff at some point. Are there many prototype items available or does it mostly have to be scratched together? I would like to model a coal operation with some passenger stuff as well. I want to put a station (Penn Central?) in. I would also love to put in Horseshoe Curve if I can do it justice in whatever space I have at the time.

I grew up in Mifflinburg, PA in the 70s and there was a line running just behind my house. I don't know if it was actually PRR or not though. Sadly, I didn't get interested in modelling until after I had moved away from PA.

Regards,
Steve

[inch53]

I'm still here, just haven't had much to say.
Mike

[Michael R, New York]

I'm here-and I model PRR.

Just don't post much here...

Michael

[Dave Vollmer]

I model exclusively PRR in N scale. Hopefully the server will come up again today and you can see my website.

PRR heaven!

[ditSteve]

Hi Dave,

The server must still be down, but I have visited your site several times. You along with Pete Nolan have provided some real inspiration for me. Some of the elements I would like to model in the PRR include, two Penn Stations (New York and Philly probably) for passenger modeling, horseshoe curve, coal operations, and one small town modeled after the town I grew up in. I'm not going for prototype authenticity or scale, but I do wish to do some justice. My era will be the 40s and 50s.

Keep up the good work.

Steve

[chooch.42]

New to Trainboard and a PRR fan with out-of-date modeling skills from lack of use. Currently NS Engineer Conway (Pittsburgh) to Harrisburg intermodalservice over ex-CR/PC/PRR. If I can be of any help to anybody, let me know. Bob C.

[Stourbridge Lion]

One thing we enjoy here at TrainBoard is Railfan stories and photographs both new and old.

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[BnO_Hendo]

Being here in Baltimore, and living within driving distance of the PRR Northeast Corridor, I saw a lot of Pennsy-PC Power. STUPIDLY, I seldom took my camera! I guess I never counted on all the mega-mergers that would eventually happen, making the Pennsy just a memory.

I rode on the Pennsy a few times to visit my grandparents in NJ. We would board at Penn Station, and ride behind one of those spectacular GG-1s. One time I went alone, guess I was about 10. My parents told the conductor where I would get off, and he promised to keep an eye on me. I sat in this nice comfy chair, and over the backs of them were nice linens with a GG-1 embroidered on it. Sure enough, the conductor checked with me, and told me when it was my stop. He saw me off the train and to my grandparents, who were right there.

I love riding trains. Flying may get you there sooner, but trains are a way to see the country in a hassle free way.

[neparailfan]

I'm another Pennsy railroader. Just haven't been much of a poster as of late. I do visit the HO scale forum alot and spend alot of time on the "other" forum site as well..

Scott

[mikado]

I have many memories of the Pennsy around the Louisville area and would consider myself a fan. It would be hard to not appreciate the 'Standard Railroad'.
Used to ride the Kentuckian to Seymour, In. with some fellow railfans and spend the night watching PRR and B&O action until about 6 am when the southbound kentuckian would take us home.
Since the ride was in the dark not much in the way of pictures though. I do have one photo of the Kentuckian arriving Louisville I just posted on railimages.
Mikado

[NSFan14]

Here is the picture I guess my dad(MIKADO) is talking about!

http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/data/532/PRR_Train_94_arriving_Louisville_Ky_3-68.jpg

[pennsy1349]

Hey, you have Pennsy fan here. I have been collecting Pennsy engines to run my layout.

Greg

[watash]

I will add some coments about the Broadway Limited in the Thread about it, above this one.

[SRC90]

I'm a true Pennsy fan. No one can take me away from my Tuscan Red and Brunwick Green. I model the whatever for the PRR. Here's pictures of my engines.

http://forums.railfan.net/Images//PRNM/100_1055_712x536.jpg
http://forums.railfan.net/Images//NScale/100_0311_718x539.jpg
http://forums.railfan.net/Images//PRNM/100_1054_712x536.jpg
http://forums.railfan.net/Images//PRNM/100_1589_712x475.jpg

[Loadmaster]

Hi all,
I grew up in Narberth, the 3rd station West of Philly on the MAIN LINE. I lived just one block from the tracks and would spend my summers hanging out at the trains station visiting with the ticket agent, a Mr Ott. This was in the 50's and would watch the Broadway LTD, Spirit of St Louis pass through heading West in the early evenings. At about 0825 the Aero Train would make it way from Philly to Pittsburgh. My mom took me for a ride on it from Paoli to Harrisburg once. I cannot wait to purchase Con Cor's version when it is released. I cannot decide whether it will be HO or N scale. I model in Z scale, but it is Swiss Railways. I discovered the scale while based at Ramstein AB, Germany in the early 90's. Recently I discovered MTL and have been collecting Eastern Railroads rolling stock, 1940s - 1960s. Before PC and Contrail. I've been a member of the NRHS and when I was significantly younger, back in the 50's my mom would take me on their train outings which was just a long day trip.
Well, so much for my chatter, I need to leave space for others to contribute.

Robert

[Triplex]

As it says in my sig. To my strong aesthetic sense, their paint schemes were uninteresting and their steam designs generally unattractive. (Arch-rival the Central had it much better on both counts.) They were the "Standard Railroad of the World", but often didn't do things the typical way. And maybe that's why I like the PRR. The largest electrification in North America (and the MP54s, about the only EMUs I don't just ignore). Four-track mainline. The ability to live up to their name in their steam fleet but not their diesels, leading to a collection of almost every postwar diesel (including Baldwins, which has to be a plus). And my preference as a model for Appalachian scenery combined with relatively low interest in a number of other eastern roads. And so on.

[BoxcabE50]

I've always had some curiousity about their far western branch lines. Anyone have history for a few of these (predecessor companies?) in IL, IN, and MI? Part of their "Lines West Of Pittsburgh."

Boxcab E50

[Ronzzr11]

Well I,m a PRR fan, but only with a couple of years worth of interest. I,ve got a girlfriend who lives near to Altoona, and until I actually flew over to see her for the first time in 2006, I knew very little of the PRR. Since then I,ve done a lot of reading about the local area around Altoona, and also developed a taste for the Norfolk Southern railroad. I,ve been working on a layout in my attic, which will be based on several of the sights around Altoona.
Hopefully I,ll be back over in Pennsylvania, this summer, so I can get to see more, of the old PRR, as well as NS railroads.
Ron

[inch53]

I've always had some curiousity about their far western branch lines. Anyone have history for a few of these (predecessor companies?) in IL, IN, and MI? Part of their "Lines West Of Pittsburgh."

Boxcab E50

I can give you some info on the St. Louis, Vandalia and Terre Haute RR.
It was charted in 1865 to compete with the St. Louis, Alton and Terre Haute RR. The StLV&TH the road became known as the Vandalia line, till CR. A lease agreement with the Terre Haute & Indianapolis RR Company to operate the line.
Actual work began in 1868, though I was told work on the Wabash river trestle at Terre Haute and the trestle over Big Creek, along with the stone arch n trestle, part of it’s still standing
old tressel - RailImages.com (http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showphoto.php/photo/9927/ppuser/4309)
over Mill Creek, both in Clark county IL was started earlier. I think the trestle over the Embarras River was started about the same time.
It reached Greenup IL later in 1868 and the first passenger train made it to St. Louis in 1870.
http://www.greenupdepot.org/html/depot_history.html
Both roads became part of the PRR in the early1900’s as the single owner.
There was another line that took off NW from the Vandalia line at Dennison ILL to Paris then on to Decatur and Peoria IL. I don’t know much about it yet, but it may have been part of the Terre Haute & Peoria RR. The line was abandoned by CR and tracks removed in the 80’s. I heard there was a trestle still standing south of Paris, but I haven’t made it there yet.
Side note, a bridge bout 2 mile west of Casey IL, where you can still read Pennsylvania
PRR bridge, Vandalia line - RailImages.com (http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showphoto.php/photo/42165/ppuser/4309)
I hope this all makes some sense, cause I’m not a good writer and tried not to make it to long winded.
inch

[plasticman]

PRR - The grand daddy of all railroads!:thumbs_up:

[BoxcabE50]

plasticman-

Welcome to TrainBoard!

Boxcab E50

[plasticman]

Thanks Boxcab E50, pleasure to come aboard!!!!

[plasticman]

I will post some pictures shortly

[Auctioneer]

I have several early photos marked StLV&TH RR that show newly constructed trestles. The only one with a locomotive is a 4-4-0 wood burner pulling 6 flat cars and a work gang. Creeks mentioned are Big Creek & West Mill Creek. Any chance these are the same ones you mention? I intend to list them on eBay but I'd be happy to jpeg you some scans if you'd like them for your files or for posting.

[Loadmaster]

I'm looking for pictures of the PRR diesel they called the centepeed because of the wheel configuration. Do anyone know if it was offered in HO or N scales? I model in Z but can always add it to my train collection and take it to train shows and run it on club layouts.

Robert

[chooch.42]

Loadmaster, Hello ! Recommend you check Keystone Crossings, kc.pennsyrr.com , an expansive resource to all things PRR. Jerry Breon's page shows a brass HO Centipede by Overland Models, to which he added trainphone antennas, ca.2000. Another of the ring sites deals with PRR Equipment manufactured for the hobby, (I can't find it at this minute, but know it's there.) Lots of pics of almost anything PRR available on the sites here. The PRRTHS site is also an option for definitive info. Your ingenuity and creative skill are gonna' be needed to replicate this one in so small a scale. Best of luck Bob C.

PS: Here's a Google for Photos - http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLG,GGLG:2008-09,GGLG:en&q=Baldwin+Centipede+photos - comes up with a few sources. BC

[Loadmaster]

Hello Bob,

Thanks a lot for the reference material. I just finished spending 2 hours reviewing the Keystone Crossing website, WOW. I never realized that much info about the PRR. When I was back in PA last summer, I visited the RR museum in Strasburg.

Robert

[puddlejumper]

Present.

Yup, I bleed DGLE. Glad to be here, hope post traffic picks up some. Model PRR in HO scale, former CSX conductor, Baltimore, MD.

Dave

[BoxcabE50]

Yup, I bleed DGLE. Glad to be here, hope post traffic picks up some. Model PRR in HO scale, former CSX conductor, Baltimore, MD.

Dave

Dave-

Welcome aboard!

My familiarity with the Pennsy is minimal. What does DGLE represent?

Boxcab E50

[puddlejumper]

Most people call it Brunswick Green. The official name was Dark Green Locomotive Enamel. My favorite color!

Dave

[BoxcabE50]

is there a similar set of initials, for the other color?

Boxcab E50

[skline00]

Running 4 Kato engines F7 A-B-B-A in PRR Brunswick Green. All have new Kato Revised motors and worm gear sets. Had to have one of the shells painted and decaled to match the other three. They haul 3 PRR tankers - 2 PRR box cars - 11 PRR coal cars - 2 PRR gondolas and a PRR caboose. Soon I'll add 2 covered PRR hopper cars. Handles the 3% grade with ease!

[Loadmaster]

I just purchased 2 Marklin F7 A-B units, only the A units are powered. So, I will also have an A-B-B-A unit but this is in Z scale. I have about 35 MTL freight cars that they will pull. They will get a workout at the NMRA convention in Anaheim, CA next month.

[skline00]

WOW Loadmaster, in Z scale that must have been pricey! Impressive!

[puddlejumper]

is there a similar set of initials, for the other color?

Boxcab E50

The only other I can think of is FCC for Freight Car Color. The other common PRR colors (Tuscan, Toluidine Red, Buff, Deluxe Gold, Battleship Grey, Chrome Yellow, Focal Orange, etc) had shorter names and I don't think had abbreviations like DGLE.

Dave

[Schraddel]

http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/data/500/thumbs/DSC005532.JPG (http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showphoto.php/photo/90232)

Hello!
Currently i am not a PRR fan. But the photo shows what i am doing now and the things to come. It's a Bowser PRR L1 kit which is reworked a little bit.
My question:
Where there footboards on rear of those 13000Gal. tender connected to L1 mikados?

Lutz

[Schraddel]

http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/data/500/thumbs/DSC005532.JPG (http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showphoto.php/photo/90232)
http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/data/500/thumbs/DSC005431.JPG (http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showphoto.php/photo/90229)
http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/data/500/thumbs/DSC005451.JPG (http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showphoto.php/photo/90230)
http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/data/500/thumbs/DSC005481.JPG (http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showphoto.php/photo/90231)




Hello!
Currently i am not a PRR fan. But the photo shows what i am doing now and the things to come. It's a Bowser PRR L1 kit which is reworked a little bit.
My question:
Where there footboards on rear of those 13000Gal. tender connected to L1 mikados?

Lutz

[chooch.42]

Shraddel, Hello and welcome to TB ! Am NOT an expert, but a fan of the ol' PRR. Believe have seen proto pics equipped as such (the brakie had to ride somewhere during switching/lite backing moves). A little searching at http://www.prrths.com/ may give you the provenance you're asking about. Good luck with what looks like a fine loco project - keep us up on your progress. Bob C.

[konrad.malkowski]

You can count me in as a PRR fan. Building a Bowser K-4 kit right now. I'm also planning on getting some Z PRR stuff for my home layout.

Got a question:

Does anyone has a good suggestion regarding a repowering kit for the K-4? I'd like to replace the standard bowser motor with a can motor.

cheers

Konrad

[jimcullen]

The following two pictures should raise your heart rate a little if your a true Pennsy fan.

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb238/chartiers/g4890.jpg

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb238/chartiers/p6755.jpg

Modeling the PRR on a smaller n scale layout. Jim

[StrasburgNut]

The following two pictures should raise your heart rate a little if your a true Pennsy fan.

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb238/chartiers/g4890.jpg

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb238/chartiers/p6755.jpg

Modeling the PRR on a smaller n scale layout. Jim


Ahhhhh...... The Pennsylvania Railroad Museum! Fun time.

I was near there last weekend. Went to the National Toy Train Museum. Real nice stuff and pretty interactive.

The Strasburg Railroad was packed. They were running both trains. Got some great trackside photos and videos. The decapod they have looks great rolling by on video.

[nstiesi]

I'm a Pennsy fan by accident. I only layout trains at Christmas, under the the tree. Only been doing it the last 2 years, but I am trying to expand this go round. I say by accident cause, at random, I purchased 3 Budd Corrugated passenger cars from ebay last year, in the Congressional Limited livery. Turns out they were in worse shape than the ebay seller had me believe, and they were scrapped, but I fell in love with the livery and started researching the PRR a bit. I replaced them with the IHC cheapies, but at least the paint was mint. Since then though, everything has gone to PRR......I just got more IHC cars in the 3 stripe Broadway limited livery this week, and have a pair of tuscan F7 A/B units to pull both lines.

I also have a freight line that I was modeling after the FEC, but I think I need some Brunswick green in the mix. I might change over. This is all HO scale, by the way. Christmas is a long way off, but if/when I get this project into gear, I can post some PRR holiday goodness.