Where is the water

[LEW]

With the problem the Tourist railroads were having with boiler
explosions a few years ago I thought
a discussion was in order on what is involved.
In todays steam world the operation
is carried out by non professionals.
This is not to say that they cannot perform the work but they do not have the older person to lead
them. The explosion at Gettysburg
brought about many changes.This explosion was caused by plugged water glasses due to the simple thing of not blowing them out.
When you climbed onto an engine the first thing before putting your grip
away was open the bottom valve and
blow the water glass out.The reason for this was that someone,after the
water was in the glass closed the
water and steam valve giving a false
reading.After determining that the reading in the glass was correct
you put your grip in the seat box.
The water glass at the bottom had a
pipe coming from the boiler slightly
above the crown sheet. At the upper
end a pipe came out of the water
glass and was connected above the
water level having steam flowing into it.Each pipe had a shut off
valve to shut off steam or water.Slightly below the water valve was the blow down valve.The
proper way to check the water glass
was in this order.You closed the steam valve , opened the blow down
valve and let the water blow out
cleaning out any scale that might be
in the pipe.Closing the blow down
valve and the water valve you opened the steam valve and then the blow
down valve and this cleaned any
scale dirt from that line.You then opened the water valve and closed
the blow down valve.After leaving
the terminal you would open the blow down valve every 5 or 10 miles to
check the water activity in the glass.You did not do the terminal
test at this time.When you did your
check you usually stood up and blowed down the engineer's water glass also.
On the engineer's side is a water column about 2 ft. high on a level
with the fireman's water glass.This
water column is actually a vertical
boiler.It is connected to the boiler
as the fireman's water glass and then the water glass is connected
to the water column.This water glass
is checked the same as the other
glass was.On the side facing the
engineer the water column had 3
valves about 2 in. apart.These were
called gauges and it was said you had 1,2,or 3 gauges of water 1 being the
lower.These valves were also blowed
out at the terminal and on the road.
Let us say both water glasses became
broken during a trip then you would
have to use the gauges to tell the
location of the water.What you had
to remember was that gauges did not
give a true reading.When you opened
one of the valves this took the steam pressure off of the water in
the column and the water raised about 1/2 in. above the true reading
These little things that are a part
of your duties also would keep you alive. LEW

[watash]

If you got distracted with some minor emergency elswhere, you could fail to remember how long it had been since you had glanced at the water glass also.

[LEW]

With the water glasses and continu-
-ously checking the water it was a
on the spot and now time thing.As a
rule you carried 1/2 glass of water
and if something came up to distract
you the amount of water being used
would not instantly mean that the
water was gone.Say we hit an auto
and stopped and the engineer and brakeman went back,you took care of
your fireman's duties and a half to
two thirds of a glass of water was
one of your duties.If you were the engineer's regular fireman he would
still glance at the water glass at times.Your first thought was always
the water. LEW

[fitz]

LEW, that's great information, as usual. I have always respected the need to verify where your water was. Didn't realize that you had to clear out the site gauge so often. I can still see the photo of NYC 5450 at Canastota, NY after the boiler explosion. Pretty terrifying the power that gets unleashed. :eek: graemlins/wow.gif

[LEW]

Where you carried the water,or I should say how high in the glass
you maintained the water varied with
the engineer.Most engineers liked to see 1/2 a glass or a little less,
some only wanted 1/4 glass and a few
never less than 1/2 and preferred
a little more.If you were moving in
the yards or waiting on a meet you
usually carried 2/3 glass. If you
went to eat you filled the glass to
the top and banked your fire.The
first thing you did when you climbed
on the engine was open the blow down
on the water glass for 1/2 second
and check that water in the glass.
The engineer that was the easiest
to fire for was Gabe Ginn.Gabe liked
clean boiler water and would blow
the engine about every 7 mile.By Gabe doing this you fired against the water pump and wanted a little
over 1/2 glass at 7 miles and he would blow down to just under 1/2
glass.When firing against the pump
how hard Gabe worked the engine,
unless he had to go almost to the corner with the reverse lever, did
not effect your firing.By over pumping you were ahead with your fire on almost any move he might make.
Another engineerwho was a gentleman
and one who wanted 1/2 glass or more
would almost panic if you stopped and had less than 1/2 glass.I fired
for Harry 3 or 4 months and got along good with him.When Harry was
young some engineer must have worked
him hard by working an engine a lot
harder than was needed.When you were
on level track Harry would *****foot
along and woud not cut the fire for you thinking he was helping you.I guess this was because of his younger days.One night I asked Harry
if he would work the engine harder
to make the fire burn better.Why yes
I can but I don't want to mess your
fire up and make work for you.With a
stoker Harry you are making work by
not working the engine.Harry cranked
her down in the corner a little more
and the fire turned from a dull red
to a whitish red I turned the blower
way down and from that time on Harry
would run the engine just right.
There are a couple more Harry stories but another time. LEW

[Ol' Hoghead]

Reminds me of the story that was told to me when I was a student fireman. When you get dust out of the bottom guage cock, it's time to get off.

[fitz]

It's really appropriate that this thread came back up today. There is a big discussion going on at Railway Preservation News on their forum about LASTA Ex-SP engine 745 having a big problem recently with a non-qualified crew just enjoying the ride and allowing the water to get low. Fortunately this engine has meltable plugs and they did their thing, melted, and prevented a boiler explosion. As Doyle McCormack was once quoted, "The next boiler explosion will be the last." :sad:

[LEW]

Ol Hoghead is right ,it is time to get off.
We had a 60 car coal train on a Claypool Turn
and as we were leaving Marion ,In. Th water pump
was working but not enough to supply the boiler.
Starting up the engineer's injector helped but was still not suppling the boiler. As we were on a 1 1/2 % grade we ran out of everything at the same time. The tonnage stopped us , nothing but blue steam thru the water glass.the bottom gage
had a we bit of moisture and the low water alarm had not gone off.The engineer had stopped with the throttle wide open to keep the water high in the boiler.I jumped up and grabbed the shaker bar to crack the grates but could not move them.The fire was a little heavy and had developed a clinker . I grabbed the clinker hook and could not reach the end to start breaking up the clinker. The brakeman had longer arms and could not get it broke loose.So we just stayed on the engine and waited.After about 15 min. we could
see signs of water in the bottom of the glass and I started building up the fire.
After 16 hrs. we tied up at Wabash and after rest
started back to So. Anderson cab light. The problem was tree leaves had plugged the supply pipe on the tender.The engine house crew at Wabash was not equipped to remove the leaves.On the way to Anderson with the water pump wide open it would just supply the boiler.
I said on this forum that we had Indiana real
estate for coal and this was an example.
I was a big 135-140 lb. at that time and learned one thing,well, two. Never have a heavy fire and
let clinkers start in the rear end of the fire box when you are not a heavy weight.I followed this until the end of steam and never had anymore
trouble.I had been firing about 4 mo.when this took place. LEW

[Flash Blackman]

Lew: Great story! I just love to read those. The Espee historical society has stories like that often. Thanks for putting it here! :thumbs_up: