Orange and white spotting question

[traingeekboy]

When was the last time someone spotted a orange and white ICG diesel?

Are there any in that sheme sitting in museums?

I live in Denver and still see Geeps in D&RGW paint. Patched, but still in the cool old paint scheme. Some day they'll stop running and that will be another sad day on the planet.

[friscobob]

Geeky,

Last ones I saw were the GP38s that went to the Katy. They weren't repainted- just a primer patch job over the ICG reporting marks & name with MKT initials & the new road number. With the grime that accompanies a well-used IC/ICG engine, it really looked like a rent-a-wreck with the primer job added here & there.

This was back around spring of 1988, on the North Canadian River bridge by LAke Eufala.

IIRC, all the remaining IC diesels were repainted black before the sale to CN.

[traingeekboy]

Thanks for the info bob.

ARGH, that black scheme just doesn't do it for me. I prefer my N&W units to be black and my ICG to be orange and white. but thats just me being stuck in the seventies without a disco ball.

[BoxcabE50]

The black scheme probably came about for two reasons. One being a break from predecessors. Which had some operating and financial questions. The other possibility being cost.

I liked seeing the orange and white, pre-ICG. Seems to me that when they added the "Gulf", things started sliding quickly downhill.

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Boxcab E50

[traingeekboy]

Yeah the merger wasn't such a good idea after all huh? I bet some execs probably said just that after they watched everything go bad.

[friscobob]

Keep in mind that IC's first diesel scheme (freight diesel) was black, so it was a return to its roots when they re- introduced the black. The addition of the "Death Star" logo on the nose helped a lot. THAT black scheme looks a lot better than NS's black-with-white-splotches scheme.

The only thing I didn't like about the orange & white was that it weathered badly- when it got dirty, it looked awful. Apparently IC followed the SP theory of diesel washing- don't. graemlins/wink.gif

[BoxcabE50]

Bob-

Yes. The original IC diesel scheme was black. With the green diamond. Their passenger colors were a lot nicer! An orange and brown. Which was very classy!

:D

Boxcab E50

[HemiAdda2d]

Originally posted by friscobob:
Keep in mind that IC's first diesel scheme (freight diesel) was black, so it was a return to its roots when they re- introduced the black. The addition of the "Death Star" logo on the nose helped a lot. THAT black scheme looks a lot better than NS's black-with-white-splotches scheme.

The only thing I didn't like about the orange & white was that it weathered badly- when it got dirty, it looked awful. Apparently IC followed the SP theory of diesel washing- don't. graemlins/wink.gif I think it looks cool in 'Deathstar' scheme:
Cheyenne, WY, 2004:

http://www.railimages.com/albums/album20/aak.sized.jpg

[traingeekboy]

Originally posted by BoxcabE50:
Bob-

Yes. The original IC diesel scheme was black. With the green diamond. Their passenger colors were a lot nicer! An orange and brown. Which was very classy!

:D

Boxcab E50 I liked the passenger scheme and the E units to go with it. No space for it on my planned table sized layout , but it looked great.

[icmr]

The death star is the best scheme in my opinion.


ICMR

Happy Railroading. smile.gif smile.gif

[MRL]

Absolutely, Post some more pics!!! tongue.gif

[r_i_straw]

The only photos I have are the patched MKT Orange & Whites. (You can still see those colors under the dirt and rust if you look real close.)
http://www.railimages.com/albums/russellstraw/adv.sized.jpg http://www.railimages.com/albums/russellstraw/adw.sized.jpg

[Martyn Read]

Some Paducah geeps left the IC before being painted black and went to places like Iowa Interstate - some of those hung around in orange & white for a long time but I don't know if any still are?

[dingoix]

My favorite scheme is the Death Star. But a close second is the attractive black-and-gray scheme used on the passenger cars and E9s in the 1990s.

[Triplex]

There were a few passenger cars in the black and gray scheme here in Calgary last year. I'll see if I can find the pictures I got.

[Triplex]

I prefer my N&W units to be black and my ICG to be orange and white.So do I, even though N&W black is dull and ICG orange/white looks terrible when dirty. They're just what those railroads are to me.

Anyway, the pictures I mentioned:
http://www.maj.com/gallery/SpaceCaptain/Other/ic1.jpg

http://www.maj.com/gallery/SpaceCaptain/Other/ic2.jpg

I like how the stripes continue between the cars in a manner that only works as long as they're ordered the same way. Somehow, I like it because it's a little impractical.

[dingoix]

COOL!! I love that scheme. I wish somebody would produce passenger cars and an E9 like that.

[icgaholic]

I saw this gp20/gp40? the other day switching cars on the old wisconsin central (CN line now I believe). I got there a little too late as the enging started moving before I could get many good shots. I also see a ton of ic and icg cars of all types on this line all the time. I can post if anyone wants to see. I am hoping to spot an orange and white engine someday. Notice the glowing red dots on the operation lifesaver logo. Pretty cool hey? Enjoy!

[Martyn Read]

Found a shot online of IC6014 back in it's orange & white days - it was an SD40A when built, an SD40 on an SDP45 frame to give an XL-sized fuel tank. :)
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=337623

Welcome to Trainboard, and cool shots :) The new yellow stripes certainly give the Deathstar scheme a different look.

[icgaholic]

nice picture. I might have to convert my undecorated kato sd 40 to this one. I am teaching myself how to paint. When I get much, much, much better I will give it a try. I will post some more pictures soon.
Jeff

[BNSF7173]

Don't forget the gray and orange scheme! Most people don't like them but I do. When I worked in Champaign there was still one of these running around, I think it was a GP-38. Also when I first moved to the Land of Lincoln, the Chicago Central & Pacific, a short line spinoff of the IC from Chicago to Debuque had a bunch of GP8 and GP10's. I have pictures and slides as recent as 1997 of them in orange & white, gray & white, Deathstar black and CC&P red. I used to paint a lot of IC & ICG orange & white N scale stuff when I lived in Champaign. Good sellers with the IC yard there and all.

Last I checked the Paducahs are mostly off the roster with the Iowa Interstate.

[BNSF7173]

Whoops, spoke too soon. Here is one http://www.iaisrailfans.org/motive-power/403/

[traingeekboy]

wow thanks for the replies. I started this a long time ago, but I am always pleased to hear more.

I lived in Urbana as a kid and saw alot of IC stuff, then one day all the diesels started sporting this weird ICG logo. :P

BNSF,
Any pictures you feel like sharing would be most welcome as this is one of those things that just went bye bye.

Did you get a chance to get any pictures of N&W over on the urbana side of town?

One of my favorite links for ICG fans:
http://www.illinoiscentral.net/rosters/alltimeroster.html

[transitionalman]

The IAIS two orange and white diesels were in Council Bluffs, IA a week ago. Photos found at:

http://oddballsdecals.rrpicturearchives.net/archivethumbs.aspx?id=13120&Page=2

Scroll down towards the middle of the page.

[Martyn Read]

Wow! Amazing stuff - amazing how well the paint has lasted on the 481! http://oddballsdecals.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=394831