Cookie Box

[Wig-Wag LLC]

What was the timing of when this paint scheme was applied to the 40' PS-1 car?

[HemiAdda2d]

I can hardly believe this topic is empty.. :o I'll have to check my copy of Mr. Eager's Color Guide to F/P Equipment.

[HemiAdda2d]

Straight from Jim Eager's book:

"60000-60036, 1954/55; 60037-60046, 1959; 60047-60076, 1961"

[Erik W]

What was the timing of when this paint scheme was applied to the 40' PS-1 car?

The D&RGW never owned any PS-1 painted in the cookie box scheme. They were the Rio Grande's unique 10'4" cars with straight side sill. The PS-1s didn't come to the D&RGW until 1966 and weren't painted in the cookie box scheme.

Erik

[Flash Blackman]

The D&RGW never owned any PS-1 painted in the cookie box scheme.

Could you just shave off the MT 40' boxcar sill? Is there another boxcar that could be modified or would be a good stand in for the DRGW car?

[HemiAdda2d]

IIRC, the cars were converted from Pressed Steel Car Co. boxcars. All this time, I didn't know the MT Cookie Box was incorrect!

[jimfitch]

Sadly there is no correct plastic box car available for the Cookie box or other "Pressed Steel" box cars. There are sure alot of bogus cookie box cars out there. Stand-in's only.

Could you just shave off the MT 40' boxcar sill? Is there another boxcar that could be modified or would be a good stand in for the DRGW car?


A stand-in is the best you could expect. I think if you look at numerous other details like size and number of sheet panels etc, door, etc, the PS-1 wouldn't be anything but a stand-in after you cut off the side sill to make it straight.

[Flash Blackman]

A stand-in is the best you could expect. I think if you look at numerous other details like size and number of sheet panels etc, door, etc, the PS-1 wouldn't be anything but a stand-in after you cut off the side sill to make it straight.

Well, at least you could do that much. Thanks, jimfitch. :shade:

[HemiAdda2d]

Yikes, I'm not that much of a rivet-counter.....
I would never think to look at that sort of detail. :o

[wig-wag-trains.com]

I forgot I never got an answer.

[jimfitch]

Yikes, I'm not that much of a rivet-counter.....
I would never think to look at that sort of detail. :o

Actually I don't count rivits either - never have counted even one! But I did count sheet metal panels and there is 5 sheets on the left hand side of the door on the Pullman Standard box car and six panels on the Pressed Steel box car. Also, the ends are different too, Dreadnaught style on the Pressed Steel vs a "wash board" style on the P-S car.

It doesn't appear you could even make a straight side sill on the PS box car to immitate the Press Steel box cars because the side sill indentations come above the bottom of the door. It would be a very difficult project indeed to convert a PS boxcar into a Pressed Steel. It looks easier to build one from scratch almost.

I forgot I never got an answer.

Jim Eagers books says the Cookie Box cars were converted from standard Pressed Steel box cars between 1954 and 1961 in several batches.

[grande5771]

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[jimfitch]

Check this out:
InterMountain Home Page (http://www.intermountain-railway.com/)

Yep, I saw that. Intermountain has offered the Pullman Standard box car before painted for Cookie Box. Readers should understand this is a "fantasy" model which never existed in prototype. As long as modelers don't mind this, they can use these as "stand-in's". I've opted to "stand out" and not buy them.