Rio Grande Steam Smoke

[r_i_straw]

http://www.yesteryeardepot.com/RG1800.JPG
It's a dark rainy day in November of 1939 as 4-8-4, #1800 leads Train #1, the Scenic Limited, out of Canon City, Colorado.

[BoxcabE50]

A question for someone knowledgable of D&RGW big steam- The stack looks quite unique. Is it two side by side? A single?

I wonder what one of these sounded like?

:D

Boxcab E50

[r_i_straw]

Originally posted by BoxcabE50:
A question for someone knowledgable of D&RGW big steam- The stack looks quite unique. Is it two side by side? A single?
Or could it be a weird feed water heater in front of the stack? The exhaust seems to be coming from behind it or maybe it is just one blast from an opening on the fireman's side? Normally on a non-articulated locomotive the two cylinder exhausts were aimed at the same stack opening so that they would create a more continuos venturi action to pull gasses from the smokebox and create a draft through the flues. I know some articulated engines had two stacks, one in front of the other.

[Stourbridge Lion]

WOW!!!!!!!

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[r_i_straw]

It must be a feed water heater. In this shot you can make out the rim of a single stack behind whatever that protuberance is.
http://www.yesteryeardepot.com/RG1803.JPG
Solida, Colorado 1939.

[Stourbridge Lion]

Very Nice!!!!!!!

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[fitz]

It is a feedwater heater, and I'm not sure what brand, Coffin, I think. Most of thiers were inside the smokebox, but they ( or some other manufacturer) had a version that was a horizontal ugly thing just like that in the photo. :(

[HemiAdda2d]

Does this count?
(pic from Yesteryear Depot (http://www.yesteryeardepot.com))

http://www.yesteryeardepot.com/RG1703.JPG

[BoxcabE50]

Originally posted by r_i_straw:
[QUOTE] Normally on a non-articulated locomotive the two cylinder exhausts were aimed at the same stack opening so that they would create a more continuos venturi action to pull gasses from the smokebox and create a draft through the flues. True. And many engines had what was called a "petticoat" inside the smoke box. This aided drafting, by acting as somewhat of a funnel toward the stack.

It was just difficult to tell for certain in that photo, as somebody hung their darned bell in the way!

:D

Boxcab E50

[Alan]

Looks a bit strange to me. The 1703 looks fine, though smile.gif

[HemiAdda2d]

If there is a better example of D&RGW big steam at work, I don't know where it could be:
(Yesteryear Depot (http://www.yesteryeardepot.com/) pics)

D&RGW 2-8-8-2 #3558 at work, and awaiting a call to duty:

http://www.yesteryeardepot.com/RG3558A.JPG

http://www.yesteryeardepot.com/RG3558.JPG

[Alan]

Judging by the size of the forward cylinders, that has to be a compound, right?

[Paul Liddiard]

The 1800-1804 D&RGW 4-8-4 locomotives used an ELESCO coil type feedwater-heater. That is the device infront of the smoke stack.
They had a single stack.
Nice looking photos!

[Paul Liddiard]

If you notice on the 1700s the ELESCO feedwater heater is located below the smokebox.

[fitz]

Paul, don't think I've ever seen one down there before. The Canadian roads and NYC liked to mount them crosswise above, in front of or in the smokebox. :D

[Paul Liddiard]

If you look at the photo of the 1703 just a few psots above, you'll see the water heater just below the smokebox between the cylinders.
http://www.yesteryeardepot.com/RG1703.JPG

That's from the Rio Grande Standard Gage Steam book, by D.J. Heimburger