A few cowl shots.

[Don Rickle]

Russell's photos inspired me to figure out how to scan my slides off my flat bed scanner. (I love cowl and cab units). I'm not pleased with the sharpness of these. I figured out how to improve them.-edited-03-29-04.
http://www.railimages.com/albums/album65/aac.sized.jpg
ATSF 92 in WB BNSF stack train climbing Curtis hill toward Curtis OK.(any relation Alan?) 10/24/96.

Well these next three are shot from a cowl unit.


http://www.railimages.com/albums/album63/aaa.sized.jpg
ATSF 510 leads a WB BNSF TOFC on the Panhandle sub somewhere near Pampa Tx. Shot from Q SBBH3-30. (12/01/96).
http://www.railimages.com/albums/album63/aac.sized.jpg
ATSF 5142 leads WB autorack. (12/01/96).

http://www.railimages.com/albums/album63/aab.sized.jpg
Starting the trip pulling out of Amarillo TX. (12/01/96).

[ 24. May 2004, 11:22: Message edited by: Don Rickle ]

[Martyn Read]

Love the cab shots. It's great to see them even if you aren't happy with them yet, I'm a cowl fan too.... ;)

[r_i_straw]

As long as we are on a cowl kick here are two of the FP45s after they removed the steam generators and renumbered them.
http://www.railimages.com/albums/russellstraw/aer.sized.jpg

[BoxcabE50]

All I have, is a flatbed scanner. No slide adaptor. If anyone can come up with a way for me to cobble together something so I could scan my stuff........??? Suggestions? Don- Let us know what you come with!

:D

Boxcab E50

[Don Rickle]

Boxcab actually I'm using an adaptor. I just never bothered to try it out. Sorry to mislead you, my post sounds like I rigged a shoe box up or something to make it work.

[BoxcabE50]

OK. Maybe you can tell me a little about the adaptor? Meanwhile, looking forward to seeing what else you scan!

:D

Boxcab E50

[Don Rickle]

Boxcab, the adaptor came with the scanner. Its a HP scanjet 5470c. The adaptor fits over the entire flat bed glass. There is a section of the adaptor in which the slides are placed. The adaptor emits its own light source to illuminate the slides. The difference between scanning prints vs. slides is the light shines down from the adaptor into the glass illuminating the slides. When prints are scanned the light is projected upward from under the glass. The slides need a little more "tweaking" with getting the right scale, exposure, and resolution.

[Don Rickle]

Russell, when did they take the steam generators out and renumber them? Was it the late 80's when Haverty introduced the "Super Fleet" or earlier?

[Martyn Read]

They got renumbered a lot!

This site has the details:
http://members.aol.com/JFuhrtrain/FP45data.htm

They were originally FP45's #101-108, in red & silver (small black Santa Fe lettering, like F units)

March 1970 they got renumbered out of the Passenger series as Amtrak was formed, so they became #5940-5948, steam generators would have started to go from here AFAIK...

They were rebuilt to become SDFP45's and got numbered #5990-5998 (not 5994 which had been wrecked as 5944)

They then got Super Fleet red & silver (big red Santa Fe) and renumbered #100-107 (this was their original number series, but they were *not* numbered in the original order with these numbers! :eek: )

When they ordered the GP60M's, they were renumbered back to the 599x series, back in the original order.

Then they were renumbered again to the #90 to #98 in original order again.

Whew. Just a few variations there! smile.gif

[Don Rickle]

Thanks Martyn. I do remember when that couple were numbered 100-101 just before the GP60Ms came out. The new GP60Ms soon took that number slot.

I caught #118 when she was the pride of the fleet at Dahinda IL on October 20, 1990. The GP60Ms are really beat up now.
http://www.railimages.com/albums/album65/aad.sized.jpg

[ 24. May 2004, 11:24: Message edited by: Don Rickle ]

[Martyn Read]

It's nice to see them like that, with bright red paint, not the "pink" they have ended up in today, not to mention the orange air conditioners on the GE's! :(

[Kevin Stevens]

I always loved Santa Fe's F45/FP45 units. Here are a couple of my shots of them: http://trainweb.org/KernJunction/atsffinal/k02009105.JPG http://trainweb.org/KernJunction/kodachrome/08138615.jpg

[Don Rickle]

Glad to see them Kevin. I don't think I was ever fortunate enough to shoot the F's on the point of a train (I didn't take a pic of the above unit from which I shot passing trains). A little while after those cab shots were taken BNSF produced a general order restricting the F's to trailing position only. Probably thought it was a safety issue having crews haul their bags up the awkward ladders into the cab.

[YoHo]

how long were they in the 5000 class between being in the 100s and the 90s? I don't ever remember seeing them like that personally or in photo/videos. Also, some of those 60Ms, even the ones still in Warbonnet are being well looked after. As a matter of fact, they are generally looking better then the GEs in Warbonnet.

[WPZephyrFan]

Ah, cowls! I love them, too!
I took this shot of Santa Fe FP45 #5998 in San Francisco for a "Transporation Festival" or something in the mid '90s;
http://www.railimages.com/albums/johndyson/aaw.sized.jpg

I like cowls enough to include one on my old HO scale layout many years ago:
http://www.railimages.com/albums/johndyson/abv.sized.jpg

Now, if the only made one in N scale...

[r_i_straw]

I found this shot deep in my pile. MRM must have been a leasing outfit. They painted out the Santa Fe on the side but kept the number.
http://www.railimages.com/albums/russellstraw/afo.sized.jpg
And then there was this engine. I think it must be a GP-7 or 9 but can't find the number listed in my old roster. Looks kind of weird with the high fans.
http://www.railimages.com/albums/russellstraw/afs.sized.jpg

[Alan]

Russel, it looks like a GP20 smile.gif

[NSCALEMIKE]

Taken during an ATSF open house in San Bernardino, Ca back in the early 80's, when the railroad seemed alot more fan friendly then they do now.
http://www.railimages.com/albums/mikecassidy/adb.sized.jpeg

[friscobob]

There is at least one FP45 stuffed & mounted at a museum in Oklahoma City- it's in the Warbonnet red, but I can't remember the number (92???) So at least one has escaped the scrapper's torch.

[Martyn Read]

I think most of the Santa Fe FP's are still in existence, of the 9 units built two were wrecked, one was sold to Wisconsin Central and was then sold on by CN (anyone know what happenned to that one) and the remainder were donated to various museums and collections by BNSF.

(couple of corrections made)

[YoHo]

There is one at the station in Barstow and one at the Illinois Railroad museum. I remember seeing a website recently that listed the dispositions of them, but I can't find it.

[NSCALEMIKE]

Martyn what was/are the numbers for the FP45's on the ATSF? I am terrible at spotting features...maybe I might have a pic in my drawer somewhere I can share.

[Martyn Read]

Check the first page of posts in this thread for a rundown of numbers, they have carried many numbers over their career!

This site also has the info and a paint scheme history of each unit. Very useful if you're a modeller.
http://members.aol.com/JFuhrtrain/FP45data.htm

This site has a pretty good rundown of all 4 cowl types on the Santa Fe, the U30CG, F45, FP45 and SDF40-2
http://atsf.railfan.net/cowls/

Anyone got any U30CG shots? smile.gif

[Paul Liddiard]

Wasn't the 5969 in the photo later turned into the UTAH RAILWAY 9013? That seems to ring a bell with me, however, I could be wrong.
Great shot though.
Paul H. Liddiard

[Paul Liddiard]

OK, I stand corrected. It was the 5960 that was turned into the 9013. Photo evidence can be found at:
http://atsf.railfan.net/cowls/f45.html
http://atsf.railfan.net/cowls/urr9013b.jpg
Paul H. Liddiard redface.gif

[Don Rickle]

I found a few more shots, I mentioned earlier I never shot a cowl in the lead, well this may be the only one. 5261 leads an eastbound at Fort Madison, IA on May 9, 1991 during a thunderstorm. http://www.railimages.com/albums/album65/aai.sized.jpg


Just like Russell's shots above, another F45 lashed up with a GP20. GP20 3032 leads #5262 east near Ottawa, KS on July 8, 1996.
http://www.railimages.com/albums/album65/aag.sized.jpg
http://www.railimages.com/albums/album65/aah.sized.jpg

[NSCALEMIKE]

Hey Don, nice shot with the lightening in the background!

[Don Rickle]

Thanks Mike, the space to the left of the engine was intentional, I was hoping to get large awesome veins of lightening but instead I got that one little bolt. graemlins/226.gif

[BNSF FAN]

Here's one of my few shots of a Santa Fe cowl unit. Took this one at Argentine Yard in Kansas City on August 22, 1990.
http://www.railimages.com/albums/richardturney/abn.jpg

[OC Engineer JD]

Don, the 5262 is one of the ex SDP40F's the Santa Fe got from Amtrak.
Love cowls! :D

[randgust]

Mmmmmm. Cowls..... Thanks guys!

http://gustafson.home.westpa.net/5942_peaks.jpg

Beware, this is the big 'un:
http://gustafson.home.westpa.net/FP45_entry_condensed_2.jpg

All I can say is that you can do this with an old Lima FP45 body, runs about $20 nonrunning on Ebay, and an Atlas SD50 chassis, not all that bad either. The F45's are whacked FP's on Kato SD45 mechs.

[OC Engineer JD]

Big and beautiful Randy!

[Don Rickle]

No Randy! Thank You!

[SP 8299]

Originally posted by r_i_straw:
[QB] I found this shot deep in my pile. MRM must have been a leasing outfit. They painted out the Santa Fe on the side but kept the number.
That's "MKM" under the cab, which stood for Morrison Knudsen Maintained. In the mid-90s, ATSF signed a maintenance agreement with locomotive rebuilder/leaser Morrison Knudsen, for them to provide maintenance for various EMD units (SD40-2s, SD45-2s, F45s) in Santa Fe's fleet. Units that fell under the agreement had a small "MKM" stencilled on their cabs. That F45 had been retired by ATSF and sold to MK for use in their lease fleet, but still had the MKM stencil; guess someone forgot to paint it out. :rolleyes:

[beast5420]

in regards to the earlier post, the one in OKC has #90 on the side.

[r_i_straw]

I don't think Amtrak would recognize this one. :D
http://www.railimages.com/albums/russellstraw/ait.sized.jpg
These here are not Cowls but they look nice anyway.
http://www.railimages.com/albums/russellstraw/aiu.sized.jpg

[OC Engineer JD]

I'll agree with that Russell!! :D

[William Cowie]

And this one spends its last days quietly reminiscing in Barstow, CA...