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Harron
March 25th, 2001, 03:54 AM
Well, just purchased a pair of the new P2K GP30s in ATSF, and I had a couple of prototype-related questions.
These engines are numbered in the 3200 series, but as delivered in 1962 they were in the 1200 series. After the 3200s, they were then numbered into the 2700 series. For what time frame would the 3200 series be accurate?
Second, for this time frame, what caboose types would be accurate to run? Thanks for your help guys.
Maxwell Plant
March 25th, 2001, 05:02 AM
I need this info too! I'm glad you asked, I have just De-BNSF-Bandited my GP30's and need to renumber them to ATSF. I'm back-dating to 1975-1980ish. What a Great and Timely question!
JCater
March 25th, 2001, 07:42 AM
Well guys, here is what I have on them. Limited, but it may help. The GP 30s were renumbered in the 2700 series after rebuilds in the 1980 to 1984 period. At that time they were renumbered as follows:
2700-2705, 2707-2729, 2731-2748,2750-2757, 2759-2760, 2762-2765, 2767-2785. They were still in the 1200 series as of 1963, but that was only a year after delivery to the SF. I would lay odds that the 3200 series occurred after reshopping in the early 70s. It would be a safe bet if you are planning on modeling the 1970 to 1980 period that the road numbers starting with 3200 and ending with 3284 would be correct. Hope this helps some. Happy Modeling!!
John
Kevin Stevens
March 25th, 2001, 07:55 AM
I went and pulled out my copy of "Santa Fe Motive Power", and here's the answer to your question:
Units renumbered from 1200's to 3200's between March and July 1970. TP&W #700 acquired 1-1-84 through merger, renumbered 3285. In mid 1980, Santa Fe began remanufacturing the 3200 class. The program was complete by July 1984. All units remanufactured before 1-1-1982 did not receive their 2700 series numbers until early 1982.
Let me know if you want more info on a specific unit, as there are more individual details in the book.
Harron
March 25th, 2001, 09:12 AM
Kevin, that looks good for the locomotives, now if I can get some info on about a caboose... :confused:
JCater
March 25th, 2001, 04:26 PM
Corey,
What info do you need? By the way there is a great book called "Santa Fe Way Cars" which I am trying to get hold of. Happy Modeling!!
John
Dwightman
March 25th, 2001, 04:40 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JCater:
Corey,
What info do you need? By the way there is a great book called "Santa Fe Way Cars" which I am trying to get hold of.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
McMillan Publications (http://www.mcmillanpubns.com/) has this book for $47.95. He also has Frank Ellington's Caboose Cars of the Santa Fe for $43.
Dwight
[ 25 March 2001: Message edited by: Dwightman ]
JCater
March 25th, 2001, 05:18 PM
Dwight,
Thanks for the link. Now if I can just convince the wife that I need these books as part of my PhD. course material....Happy Modeling!!
John
Maxwell Plant
March 26th, 2001, 02:38 AM
The Way cars, I'm cool on. Thanks for the info on the 30's, looks like I'll be using the 3200 series numbers. smile.gif Thanks again!
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