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JCater
February 22nd, 2002, 07:58 PM
OK, so now that we know which was the greatest motive power ever ;) , what was the best Santa Fe paint scheme? I say the mid-50s war bonnet and (no accounting for taste) I really like the Zebras!! Look forward to hearing from you all!
John
Martyn Read
February 22nd, 2002, 08:38 PM
The late zebra as per the repainted RSD15's and SD24's with full size silver Cooper Black letters.....too cool....
Alan
February 23rd, 2002, 12:54 AM
Sorry, I don't like the zebras at all. Give me a blue and white, or red and silver warbonnet any day smile.gif
Actually, Zebras can look cool ;)
http://www.holidaypics.0catch.com/zebra.jpg
(Taken during our Kenyan Safari) :D
Dwightman
February 23rd, 2002, 08:30 PM
Definitely the red and silver warbonnet as it appeared on the late F3's and F7's (short warbonnet, stainless steel sides, Indian heads, small black lettering...).
Dwight
c.a.jon
February 23rd, 2002, 10:56 PM
If the red & silver warbonnet scheme (from any era) is not THE most popular paint scheme EVER why has it been used on so many model trains in any scale? Simply it will sell!
gordon
February 24th, 2002, 06:13 AM
the santa fe " warbonnet " is with out a doubt the most popular and most famous paint scheme ever " hands down " on any " f " or " e " unit !!!! :D
LONG LIVE THE SANTA FE ! :D
fitz
February 24th, 2002, 06:47 AM
Of these two Santa Fe engines, you KNOW I like the paint job on the black one best. The other is for those of you who said you prefer it. Actually, if you gotta be a diesel, that's the best paint job ever. :D http://www.pioneer.net/~fitzrr/santfe.jpg
santafewillie
February 24th, 2002, 06:20 PM
Any Warbonnet scheme is exceptional
JCater
February 25th, 2002, 09:14 AM
Excellent shot Fitz! Santafewillie, good to hear from you! Keep on postin'!!
John
watash
February 25th, 2002, 12:20 PM
Hey SantaFeWillie, welcome to the TrainBoard family!
Your moniker sure rings a bell, like back around 1949 at a Hobo Camp where we made some old time Slumgullian out in the middle of the world?
Maybe Three finger Freddy, Doc Cutter, Buddy Cayce, Watash, Tin Can Jack, Wrecker, and Crack Shot might jog your memory? Those were some crazy days back then!
Is that you?
gordon
February 26th, 2002, 10:17 AM
excellent shot , fitz!!! , I will change my vote! to " basic black " :D I would say more , but its hard to type one handed and saluting that photo!!!!
Santa Fe - All the way !!! :D
StickyMonk
February 26th, 2002, 09:29 PM
<font color="336633">My fav would be the yellow and blue war bonnet.... after BN green and black SD40-2's just look right in it smile.gif </font>
JCater
February 27th, 2002, 05:07 AM
Man, I always forget the basic black...it is of course "classic" ;)
John
friscobob
February 27th, 2002, 11:05 AM
I personally like the blue & yellow adaptation of the Warbonnet scheme, as seen on the freight diesels. Personally, I think the red Warbonnet doesn't belong on freight locomotives, and since Santa Fe operates a lot in the Southwest, where the sun really shines brightly, the Super Fleet diesels are starting to look really shabby. It's a sad fate for such a classic scheme, which looks best on the F units and PAs.
My two cents' worth...........
JCater
February 27th, 2002, 11:43 AM
Couldn't agree with you more Bob!! Although I suppose the use of the scheme on freight was better than losing it to history with the demise of SF passenger service.
John
BNSF FAN
March 2nd, 2002, 06:30 PM
The warbonnet scheme in almost any color combination looks the best. How can you pick just one????? :confused: There is Red & Silver, Blue & Yellow, Yellow & Silver, Blue & Silver, and Green & Cream (oh, that was BNSF. Sorry. :rolleyes: ) Any way you look at it though, the warbonnet is #1!!!!!!!!! :D
JCater
March 3rd, 2002, 11:34 PM
Richard,
You got that right!! It is really hard to decide which is best. I say, if its Santa Fe, what could possibly be wrong with it :D :D !!
John
Alan
March 4th, 2002, 04:51 AM
Originally posted by JCater:
I say, if its Santa Fe, what could possibly be wrong with it :D :D !!
John:D ABSOLUTELY CORRECT :D
Maxwell Plant
April 27th, 2002, 08:39 AM
"I like 'em BIG, I like 'em TALL, I LOVE THEM ALL! "Hank Williams' Jr." :cool:
All of the above!
John K.
April 28th, 2002, 06:14 AM
I've seen pictuers of F units units with a yellow war bonnet. Can any of you Santa Fe people explain this very rare paint scheme. Thanks, John K.
[ 28 April 2002, 22:01: Message edited by: John K. ]
friscobob
April 28th, 2002, 08:29 AM
Originally posted by JCater:
Richard,
You got that right!! It is really hard to decide which is best. I say, if its Santa Fe, what could possibly be wrong with it :D :D !!
JohnWell, with the exception of the Tyco-inspired SPSF paint scheme, nothing wrong at all.
JCater
April 29th, 2002, 01:58 AM
Bob,
I would have to take the SPSF over the Pumkin...there is just somethiong not right about the color combo there!
John
Martyn Read
April 29th, 2002, 02:42 AM
Ref the yellow warbonnet:
As far as I can tell, the "yellowbonnet" scheme was used post-Amtrak on the passenger units that were leased out to pull Amtrak trains. Several passenger F's were painted in it (with several variations) and some dual service units were painted in "bluebonnet", a sort of blue/silver warbonnet scheme as well. I guess it was kind of a way to get the then new blue & yellow warbonnet scheme onto the passenger power whilst retaining the silver that helps make the passenger train look good!
Some of the freight F's did get the full blue and yellow warbonnet scheme, but it never particularly suited them IMO :(
HTH
friscobob
April 29th, 2002, 05:41 AM
Originally posted by JCater:
Bob,
I would have to take the SPSF over the Pumkin...there is just somethiong not right about the color combo there!
JohnOf the two "Pumpkin" schemes, I like the first one- the second looks like it was also designed by Tyco. And have you ever seen a faded pumpkin? One came thru GJ this morning on an eastbound BNSF feight. Looks hideous! I'd take the first GN-inspired paint job any day!
And I still like the blue & yellow warbonnet on the freight diesels :D :D (and the red/silver on the passenger engines)
Maxwell Plant
April 29th, 2002, 06:54 AM
Originally posted by Martyn Read:
Ref the yellow warbonnet:
As far as I can tell, the "yellowbonnet" scheme was used post-Amtrak on the passenger units that were leased out to pull Amtrak trains. Several passenger F's were painted in it (with several variations) and some dual service units were painted in "bluebonnet", a sort of blue/silver warbonnet scheme as well. I guess it was kind of a way to get the then new blue & yellow warbonnet scheme onto the passenger power whilst retaining the silver that helps make the passenger train look good!
HTHYes, you ARE CORRECT! smile.gif
[ 29 April 2002, 00:55: Message edited by: Maxwell Plant ]
Dwightman
April 29th, 2002, 07:36 AM
Actually, there were only 3 "300 class" locos painted in the yellowbonnet scheme, 2 A units and 1 B unit. Only the "300 class" was leased to Amtrak. The rest of them kept the red warbonnet.
When the "325 class" was assigned to freight only duties in 1971, they were initially to be repainted into the bluebonnet scheme. Only 7 A units and a few B units were painted like this before it was decided to go with the yellowbonnet for these, too. That decision may have had something to do with the adaptation of the yellow and blue warbonnet.
Of course, the Santa Fe was busy rebuilding the F7's into CF7's at this time.
Dwight
John Barnhill
April 29th, 2002, 11:18 PM
Kodachrome! Nuff said. :D tongue.gif
Martyn Read
April 30th, 2002, 02:26 AM
Dwight, you're right.....(DOH! didn't mean that to rhyme! :D )
I hadn't twigged when I was looking at the pics in the book last night that most of the yellowbonnets pictured were the dual service "325" class.
It does say in there though that the yellowbonnet was used for the Amtrak lease fleet though? There are 6 different A's & 2 B's pictured in the scheme, but only one A is a 300 class machine. For the record there's A units 304, 326, 330, 341, 344, 347C and B units 348A and 345B, and presumably that's not all the units so painted?
Dwightman
April 30th, 2002, 07:27 AM
Martyn,
Check out the Santa Fe F Unit Site (http://members.aol.com/JFuhrtrain01/CF7frames/F3F7F9.html). Click on "'bonnets." It lists the yellow- and bluebonnets. Unfortunately, not all the picture links work.
Dwight
BN9900
April 30th, 2002, 09:20 PM
Blue and Yellow! Nuff said!
JCater
May 1st, 2002, 02:45 AM
[[/qb][/QUOTE]Of the two "Pumpkin" schemes, I like the first one- the second looks like it was also designed by Tyco. And have you ever seen a faded pumpkin? One came thru GJ this morning on an eastbound BNSF feight. Looks hideous! I'd take the first GN-inspired paint job any day!
I saw the same faded pumpkin unit up there around Christmas...awful! Frankly, BN could have made a very powerful statement if they had kept the red/silver and simply labled the engines BNSF. No imagination!!
John
C41-8W
May 22nd, 2002, 01:45 PM
Hallo! I have see a photo of PA-1 ATSF in goldbonnet livery. It is the painted scheme that in previous mex has been called yellow bonnet or draft of an other type? In this last case which locomotives have had painted it?
Thank's in advance!
:cool:
MEC563
June 13th, 2002, 11:59 PM
For me, the only other warbonnet to love besides the red and silver, were the Avon blue and silver ex ATSF D&H PA's!
superheater
July 6th, 2002, 10:29 PM
Boy I can close my eyes and picture the Super Chief tooling through the desert of the southwest,
what a sight. to bad they had to go.
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