GE and ALCo Locomitive List (warning very large but not as large as EMD)

[Chessie_SD50_8563]

Okay heres the list we compiled of the GE and ALCOs used in the US and Canada

GE 4 Axle

U7B


U18B


U23B


U25B


U28B


U30B


U33B


U36B


B23-7/R/S


B30-7/R/S/A/AB/B


B36-7/R/S/E/U


B32-8/E/PH


B36-8/E/W (W was GE demo)


B39-8/E/W (W was GE demo)


B40-8/E/W


P40BHDC/AC


P42BHDC/AC

GE Six Axle


U25C


U28C


P28CG


U30C


P30CH/G


U33C


U34CH


U36C


U50C


C30-7/A


C33-7 (BN C30-7 with traded in U33C engine)


C36-7/M/R


C32-8/E


C39-8/E


C40-8/W/M


C41-8W (ATSF C40-8W varitive)


C42-8/W (CNW C40-8 varitave)


C44-8W (CSX C44-9W with some -8 equipment)


C39-9 (GE's load testing demo)


C40-9/W (NS C44-9W)


C44-9W/L/R


AC4400CW/CTE


AC6000CW/T (CSX ones have a T in there name. I do not know why)
GE Eight Axles


U50


ALCo Four axle


FA1/FB1/FA2/FB2/FA4/FB4


S1/S2/S3/S4/S5/S6


T6


RS1


RS2


RS3


RS4


RS5


RS11


RS12


RS15


RS17


RS18


RS28


RS32


C415


C420/M


C424/M


C425/M


C428/M


C430/-2/M


C436/-2/M

ALCo Six Axle


DL101/102/103


PA1/PB1/PA2/PB2/PA4/PB4


RSD1


RSD2


RSD3


RSD4


RSD5


RSD12


RSD15


RSD17


RSD18


C628


C/M630/R/W


C/M636/R/W


M640

ALCo 8 Axle


C855

There it is the GE/ALCo locomotive list

[Harron]

P32ACDM - used in Empire State service with Amtrak, 3rd rail capable.

And what about the DL109/110?

C44-8W - this is an oddity, and technically is a C44-9W in a C40-8W carbody (no split cooling). 9000-9002 have this.

C40-9(W) - just a 4000 HP dash 9, rather than 4400, so it's not a "NS C44-9W"

And, I've never seen a CSX CW60AC with a "T" in the name. If you read under the cab, the unit ID is CW60AC. Where did you read this one?

[Chessie_SD50_8563]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>

C40-9(W) - just a 4000 HP dash 9, rather than 4400, so it's not a "NS C44-9W"

And, I've never seen a CSX CW60AC with a "T" in the name. If you read under the cab, the unit ID is CW60AC. Where did you read this one?[/B]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Okay the NS C40-9/W are indeed derated C44-9W, NS derated them for fuel/maintance/prefernce reasons but they can be run at 4400 HP but to do so there are two keys that need to be turned, one by a maintance guy and the other by a motive power manager. (kinda reminds me of one of those nuclear missle movies smile.gif )

As for the AC6000CWT I have no idea what the "T" stands for but on some GE paperwork and info I got to see they had the T in the name, appernently CSX is overlooking the T just like they call there C44-8W "C44-9W".

[Hytec]

Don't forget the first(?) GE diesel to run on North American rails ... the Ingersoll-Rand-GE box-cab switcher. I think it was numbered 1000, and used by the B&O starting in 1925, but I could be mistaken.

Of course GE had been making gas-electric cars since about 1905, but they were not locomotives in the strict sense.

Hank

[Dwightman]

There are also the "Big Blows," UP's gas-turbines built by GE.

Dwight

[rodblakeman]

The six axle ALCo list seems to be missing the ALCO DL-535, 1250HP engines as used on the WP & YR ?

Sorry if I missed something this is my first post to this list.

[Colonel]

Rod,
Welcome to trainboard i hope you enjoy it here as much as i do. great to see you post and look forward to seeing you visit more often

[StickyMonk]

<font color="336633">Alco/MLW RS36, RS27, RSC2, C643H, M420B, M420TR, M420W, MRS1, RS10, RS23, RSC14, RSC24, S7, S10, S11, S12, S13. GE U23C 25T, 44T, 45T, 50T, 65T, 70T, 80T, 90T, 100T, 110T.</font>

[ 22 March 2001: Message edited by: StickyMonk ]

[StickyMonk]

<font color="336633">Some of the locos you listed i have never heard of like the RS12, RS15, RS17. where were these locos used?</font>

[E&NRailway]

The RS12 was built by Baldwin. It was an upgraded version of the DRS-4-4-1000. Chessie, you also left out the RS10, basically an RS18 with an FA-2 engine.

[ 22 March 2001: Message edited by: E&NRailway ]

[E&NRailway]

RS18u
http://www.trainpage.com/tCo-Cr/images/cp1855.jpg


The big difference between an RS10 and an RS18, the RS10 had the PacMan on the short hood where as the RS18's had the PacMan on the long hood.

RS10
http://www.trainpage.com/tCo-Cr/images/cp8574atcotestlucydghl.jpg

RS18
http://www.trainpage.com/tCo-Cr/images/cp8763d.jpg

RS23
http://www.trainpage.com/tCo-Cr/images/cp8041a.jpg

[Chessie_SD50_8563]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by StickyMonk:
<font color="336633">Some of the locos you listed i have never heard of like the RS12, RS15, RS17. where were these locos used?</font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Okay I really managed to screw the Alcos up on this one. I must have goten a brain fart because I ment to put those as RSD12 and 15 and 17.

Earilyier I had mentioned a RS28 and a RS32, these never really exsisted and what I ment to say was the RS27 and the RS36. (another brain fart :rolleyes: )

[Chessie_SD50_8563]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by rodblakeman:
The six axle ALCo list seems to be missing the ALCO DL-535, 1250HP engines as used on the WP & YR ?

Sorry if I missed something this is my first post to this list.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

DL-535s are a RSD12 if memory serves me right
I also forgot to mention the SP hydrolics (DH-643) Sometimes called C643H

[Hytec]

The Arkansas & Missouri Railroad website, http://www.arkansasmissouri-rr.com/ is showing one RS-32 on its active duty roster. I believe it's used almost daily, and has been for many years.

Also the WP&Y DL-535's don't look anything like the RS-12's that I remember seeing years ago, but I could be wrong on this last. Also the WP&Y runs on 3 foot guage if this makes a difference.

Hank

[ 22 March 2001: Message edited by: Hank Coolidge ]

[StickyMonk]

<font color="336633">I also forgot the SSB9, only 2 was built for Oliver Iron Mining, its basicly a S6 cow and calf set</font>

[Chessie_SD50_8563]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hank Coolidge:

Also the WP&Y DL-535's don't look anything like the RS-12's that I remember seeing years ago, but I could be wrong on this last. Also the WP&Y runs on 3 foot guage if this makes a difference.

Hank

[ 22 March 2001: Message edited by: Hank Coolidge ]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Yeah it does make a differnce. I had another "brain fart" (suprise suprise)the DL-535 is not a RSD12 I got confused with something else. Then on the RS-32 info you are correct. I checked my notes (something I should have done at the very begaining) and Conrail owned 23 RS-32 inherted from the NYC/PC. But still there is no RS-28

[CP&E 3207]

GE
BQ23-7
only 10 built for Seaboard system
MT4
MT6

[Harron]

MT4 and MT6 are slugs, not locomotives, they don't count. ;)

[SSW9389]

My 2 cents. The 35 RS32s were built in 1961-62 for the NYC-25units and SP-10 units. You can also add in the FPA-2 and FPB-2s. These had a separate Alco DL # from the FA-2s and FB-2s.

Why did we start this thread?

[NBSRFAN]

Also, add RS23's (CP) and FPA4's to your list ;) :cool:

[BC Rail King]

Here are some more

C40-8M
C44-8M
CRS20 (RS18 with new cooling systems and beltpack)
C39-9ME
HR616*
HR412W*
47T
RSC13
FA4
S13u
TURBO
LRC1 (I am not sure this actaully ever existed)
LRC2
LRC3
35T


*Technically falls under Bombardier but is considered a MLW/ALCo model

<big>Dane N.</big>

[7600EM_1]

Hank,
The Box Cab you were speaking of was not only ALCO, and Intersol-Rand, but General Electric was involved in it as well. It was B&O R.R. class,DE, road number 1 in 1925. In 1940 the class was changed to DS-1, road number to 195. Then in 1956 it was changed again to B&O R.R. class SA-1 road number 8000. It was scapped in 1959 and rescued from the torch, and now in the "National Museum of Transportation in St. Louis.

The very first one of these Box Cab switchers was C.N.W. road number 1000, and is now in the B&O Museum.

I have the history on both these loco's being that they were the first 2 made by ALCO, Intersol-Rand, and General Electric. I have a scale model of the DS-1 #195 as the B&O had it in 1940. A nice little old diesel/electric switcher... I thought the info on the B&O would be appreciated and as it was NOT the first one to be built but the second one the C.N.W. was the first.... :D