Name all the American/Canadian Locomotives you can (warning VERY LONG)

[Chessie_SD50_8563]

The other night me and a friend were passing time by naming all the EMD GE and ALCo locomotives we could. SO far we have compiled this list can you think of more (yes I know we already have ALOT)
Ill do EMD first
EMD Four Axles


FT/FTB/F1/F1B/F2/F2B/F3/F3B/F5/F5B/F6/F6B/F7/FP7/F7B/FP7B/F8/F8B/F9/FP9/FL9/F9B/FP9B


GP5 (BN rebuild)


GP7/B


GP8


GP9/B
<p< GP10


GP11 <rebuild but we dont know who>


GP15/15-1/T/D


GP16 (SCL rebuild)


GP18


GP19-1 (MRL Rebuild)


GP20/C/D


GP28/M/P/E/R


GP30/M/B/RMDT


GP35/P/C/M/B/RMDT


GP38/-2/M/B/R/P/L/W


GP39/-2/M/R/P/E/V/X (V&E are BN GP30 rebuilds)


GP40/-2/M/R/P/L/W/B?/X


F40PH


GP49/X


GP50/X


GP59


F59PH/I


GP60/M/B


F69PHAC


BL2


BL20-2
Switchers


NW1


NW2


NW5


NW12


SC1


SC600?


SW1/B


SW600/B


SW7/B


SW8/B


SW9/B


SW1000/1001


SW1200/B


RS12??????? (SW7 with GP nose)


SW1500/1501/1504


MP15/DC/AC/T
EMD SIX AXLE


E1/1B/2/2B/3/3B/5/5B/6/6B/7/7B/8/8B/9/9Eu/9B


SD7/R/E/U


SD8


SD9/R/E/U


SD10


H15 (SCL Rebuild from SD35)


SD18 (CNW Rebuild from SD24)


SD20-2 (Chessie Rebuild from SD35)


SD24/-4/R/B


SD28


SD35/P/R


SD38/-2/R


SD39/R (there was no SD39-2)


SD40/-2/-3/P/R/M/T/F/X


SD44 (SP rebuild from SD45)


SD45/-2/P/R/M/T


F/FP45


SD50/L


SD60/M/I


SD70/M/I/MAC


SD75M/I


SD80MAC


SD89MAC-H (I just had to add that one)


SD90MAC/9043/-HII
I think that preaty Much covers EMD
GE and ALCO will be next post

[Colonel]

Chessie,
that would have to be one of the most comprehensive lists I've seen. i'm interested to see how many members find anymore locomotives, it will also be interesting to see how many members have a different idea of all EMD locomotives :D

[yankinoz]

The Soo Line wrecked a GP9 and rebuilt it with body parts from a GP35. I don't know if it was ever official but it was know as the GP22 ((GP9 + GP35) / 2 = GP22)

[Harron]

You missed SD26 for starters, and I've seen GP10s too (Paducah-rebuilt 9s). Forgot the DDA40X, the DD35 and the DDA35. SDL39, FP10, GP40TC, GP38AC, SD50F. I think you should put an "R" after GP7 and GP9, Guilford runs them.

Also, can you show me a picture of any of the following:

F1,4,5,6,8 (A or B)
E1,4,5 (A or B)

I think these units were "skipped" in production, but existed in design only. There is a logical progression from 1 to 9, but they didn't produce them that way.

Also, have not seen an "SD44" on anybody's roster. If you're referring to the MK rebuilds from SP SD45s for the SP, they were re-classed as SD40M-2s.

[Dwightman]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Harron:
F1,4,5,6,8 (A or B)
E1,4,5 (A or B)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

As far as I know, there was no F1 (though I think the FT was sometimes referred to as the F1),4,6, or 8. However, late F3's were sometimes called F5's. The E1 (http://www.railfan.net/railpix/ABPR/january01/01-01-01/4SantaFe.jpg)'s were owned by the Santa Fe. I think the B&O units were EA/EB (http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/tr_bo51.jpg)'s. The E4's were owned by SAL. The only difference between an E3 and an E4 is the E4 had a tilt out nose door. The E5 (http://www.trainpage.com/tCa-Cm/images/cb&q9950atcolo_springsc.jpg)'s were owned by the Burlington. They had stainless steel sides and fluting along the bottom panels. They also had smaller side windows to allow room for a letterboard below the intake grills. Internally, they were identical to E3/4's.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Also, have not seen an "SD44" on anybody's roster. If you're referring to the MK rebuilds from SP SD45s for the SP, they were re-classed as SD40M-2s.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The SD44 (http://espee.railfan.net/spsd44r.html) (there was only one) was an SD45 rebuilt by the SP in 1981 with a 16-cylinder engine. A lot of work had to be done to mount the smaller engine, so SP decided to just derate the 20-cylinder engines instead.

Dwight

[ 20 March 2001: Message edited by: Dwightman ]

[Hytec]

This thread may be refering to currently active engines only, but if not ....

Don't forget UP's M-10000, B&M's 6000, and the early Zephyrs (pre-E5's), just to name a few of the early EMC/EMD "experiments".

Hank

[Chessie_SD50_8563]

Oh man that crazy, How could I forget the DDs, and SD50/60F
:rolleyes:

The F6/F8 where rebuilds but I dont remeber by who (panducha?)
The F4 was just a mistake on my part, Got comfused with the E4 because I added those last (even though there in the beganing and middle of the list) I also am not entirely sure that theres a FP7B/FP9B can somebody check this for me? And finnally theres a SD40G, and SD50-3M that I forgot to add.

[ 20 March 2001: Message edited by: Chessie_SD50_8563 ]

[E&NRailway]

EMD
GP7, GP8, GP9, GP10, GP11, GP15, GP18, GP20, GP28, GP30, GP35, GP38, GP39, GP40, GP49, GP50, GP59, GP60, GP38AC, GP38-2, GP39-2, GP40-2, GP15T, GP15D, GP20D, SD7, SD9, SD24, SD35, SD38(AC/-2), SD40(-2), SD45(-2), SD50, SD60, SD70, SD70I, SD70M, SD75I, SD70MAC, SD80MAC, SD9043MAC, SD90MAC-H, SW1, NW2, SW2, SW6, SW7, SW8, SW9, SW1200, SW1200RS, SW1500, MP15DC, MP15AC, MP15, FT, F3, F7, FP7A, F9, FP9A, F7B, F9B, F40PH, F45, F40PH-2, F59PH, F59PHI.

ALCo/MLW/Bombardier
RS1, RS2, RS3, RS10, RS11, RS18, RS23, RS32, RSD3, RSD4, RSD5, RSD15, RSD17, C420, C424, C425, C430, C628, C630, C630M, C636, M636, M640, M420, HR412, HR616, S1, S2, S3, S4, S6, S11, S13, FA-1, FA-2, FPA-2 FPA-4, PA-1, PA-3.

Baldwin
DRS-4-4-1000, DRS-4-4-1500, DRS-6-6-1500, AS616, VO1000, RS12, DS4-4-1000, S12.

CLC/Fairbanks Morse
CFA-16-4, CFB-16-4, CPA-16-44, CPB-16-4, CPA-16-5, CPA-20-5, H-10-44, H-16-44, H-16-46, H-24-66.

Those are all I can think of.

[Mike C]

Hey dont forget that Alco also made STEAM locos. :D Care to revise the list?? :D http://www.harrythecat.com/graphics/k/train3.gif

[Big Al]

Weren't the four Alco PAs rebuilt for the D&H classified as PA-4s. Also don't forget M-Ks entry into new locomotive building, the three MK5000s.
If you take more than one of the letters listed next to the SD40 then I guess you can come up with my favorite beast, the SDP40F.

[ 22 March 2001: Message edited by: Big Al ]

[Chessie_SD50_8563]

The PA are on the Alco/GE list I made and I dint include the MK5000 because they were a totally new engine (no componets from other units) And would have to be classifyed under a list of MK built-new locomotives since they share no parts with EMD units (or GE or ALCO for that matter.. unless you include the modifyed Defco trucks)

[Harron]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Big Al:
Weren't the four Alco PAs rebuilt for the D&H classified as PA-4s?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Al, believe you are correct here. I seem to remember the PA-4 from somewhere.

[StickyMonk]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Chessie_SD50_8563:

RS12??????? (SW7 with GP nose)
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

<font color="336633">RS1325</font>

[CP&E 3207]

GP9m
there was a local railroad here that rebuilt their GP7's to GP5's also

[BN9900]

The GN was the ones that rebuilt GP9s to GP5s, not the BN however the BN Relabled them to GP9ms (M=modified)

[BC Rail King]

GMD1u
GMD1
GMD1L
GMD1 (2 axle truck)
SW900m
G8
FP7Au

Happy Railroading!

Dane N :cool:

[BC Rail King]

and the GF6C, BCRs electric locomotive...

[Chessie_SD50_8563]

May I ask what a G8 is?

[Chessie_SD50_8563]

Also who changed the topic name

there was a GE/ALCO list
and a EMD list

Having American and Canadian adds confusion

I also want to add the Mexican G12 while were in G mode

[fitz]

0-4-0, 0-6-0, 0-8-0, 0-10-0, 2-4-0, 2-4-2, 2-4-4, 2-6-0, 2-6-2, 2-6-4, 2-8-0, 2-8-2, 2-8-4, 2-10-0, 2-10-2, 2-10-4, 4-2-0, 4-4-0, 4-4-2, 4-6-0, 4-6-2, 4-6-4, 4-8-0, 4-8-2, 4-8-4, 4-10-0, 4-10-2, 4-12-2, 0-6-6-0, 0-8-8-0, 2-6-6-2, 2-8-8-2, 2-8-8-4, 4-6-6-4, 4-8-8-4, 2-6-6-6, 4-4-4-4, 4-4-6-4, 6-8-6 I'm tired.
Happy Memorial Day. ;)

[E&NRailway]

FT-AB
F7, FP7A, F7B, F9, FP9A, F9B, F40PH-2
GMD-1, GP7, GP8, GP9, GP10, GP11, GP15-1, GP15T, GP15D, GP18, GP20, GP20D, GP30, GP35 GP38, GP38AC, GP38-2, GP39, GP39-2, GP40, GP40-2, GP49, Gp50, GP59, GP60, SD7, SD9, SD10, SD18, SD24, SD35, SD38, SD38AC, SD38-2, SD40, SD40-2, SD50, SD60, SD70, SD70M, SD70I, SD70MAC, SD75I, SD80MAC, SD89MAC, SD9043MAC, SD90MAC-H, SW1, SW2, SW6, SW600, SW7, SW700, SW800, SW900, SW900RS, SW1200, SW1200RS, SW15.

MLW
FA-1, FA-2, FPA-2, FPA-4
FB-1, FB-2, FPB-2, FPB-4
RS1, RS2, RS3, RS10, RS18, RS23, RSD17
C424, C630, C636M, M636, M640
M420W, HR412, HR616
S1, S2, S3, S4, S10, S11, S13

CLC
DRS-4-4-1000
DS-4-4-1000
CPA-16-4
CFA-16-4
CPA-16-5
H-12-64
H-16-44
H-24-66

[Gregg Mahlkov]

Y'all seem to have completely forgotten about pre=World War II Diesels such as ALCO's HH660, which was owned by quite a few railroads. Baldwin also produced many switchers prior to the VO1000. :cool:

[Dwightman]

Well, there's already a topic for Alco/MLW's and GE's (http://www.trainboard.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=56&t=000215). This one started out as EMC/EMD/GMD. But you guys are right. There's also Baldwin, Lima-Hamilton (and Baldwin-Lima-Hamilton ;)), Fairbanks-Morse/CLC, Bombardier and Morrison-Knudson. Not to mention the one-hit (or should that be miss?) wonders: Krauss-Maffei and Ingalls Shipbuilding. And industrial/mining locomotive builders too numerous to mention.

Dwight

[Paul Rahman]

ok-why are there no TR units??? I thought I double checked, and I see none!!! You know, Cow/calf???

Paul

[jbaakko]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by E&NRailway:

SD89MAC,<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

SD89MAC?
:confused:

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>SD9043MAC, SD90MAC-H<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You left out the SD90MAC, and the SD9043MAC Usually has a / in there, SD90/43MAC

[jbaakko]

Hey guys i just reaized i did something close to this a few months back (i think it may have actully been last summer), but bow i realize i have to majorly update it:
http://protochoice.topcities.com/trains.html

[BC Rail King]

From MLW there is also the M420W, I think only M420 has been said. There is also the M420B. There are still alot of M420Ws in service through out Canada (However, most are Manitoba west).

Happy Railroading!

Dane :cool:

[BC Rail King]

SD89MAC???


The SD89MAC was a unit they have been developing for some time, it is essentially a SD9043MAC that looks like a SD90MAC-HII, and runs like an SD80, if I remember correctly. CPR was looking at purchasing these units but decided to purchase 50 more AC4400CW units, good grief!

Happy Railroading!

Dane :cool:

[Chessie_SD50_8563]

due to the oragously large mass confusuion out there about what a SD89MAC is I will explan

the SD89MAC (name not offical yet) is a 4500HP SD90MAC-HII that uses a 12 cyl 265H as its prime mover. Its still technically in its R&D stage and wont demo till later this year. Its builders plate says SD90MAC but in fact it is not. The name is still up in the air. Names that are in consideration are

SD89MAC
SD85MAC
SD90MAC/4500 (what EMD is temperaly calling it)

Also even though the unit ran around on CP for quite some time. CP was NOT demoing the unit.