Fraser Canyon

[Robin Matthysen]

These two photos show the tracks on either side of the fraser River. One side is CP, the other CN. When one crosses over so does the other. Competition was heavy but no sharing. The walls of the canyon get steeper as you travel west. I will have to get a lot more pictures when next I am there. Not always easy to stop as the highway is narrow and twists and turns along the river. I must also plan enough time to get some train shots.
SORRY PICTURES NO LONGER AVALABLE DUE TO CONFLICT WITH PHOTOPOINT

[ 08 April 2001: Message edited by: Robin Matthysen ]

[Alan]

From photographs and video taken by a friend, also some purchased videotapes, this is a stunning area. I really must make the trip over to the Canadian Rockies, as we have been promising ourselves this for years!

If you keep showing me photos., I will not be able to resist http://www.trainboard.com/biggrin.gif

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[E-8]

Amazing photos Robin! http://www.trainboard.com/smile.gif

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[rsn48]

Robyn,
Your description of the canyon isn't quite accurate anymore. For about the last year now, CP and CN have been running directionally. In the past, CP ran on their track and CN on theirs; but in a moment of sanity - a move away from the normal insanity that upper railway management often inhabits - a decision was reached to go directional. Trains run west on one line and east on the other line.

When the CN/BNSF merger looked like it was going to happen, CP got all in a snit and threatened to stop the directional running. I would have actually paid money to see this as both have grain contracts which are enormous and demanding. I don't think with the level of contracting both roads have, they could afford to go back to old ways. In fact, either CP or CN or both were sued by prairie farmers because they had not made good on wheat delivery in a timely manner and won in court. So it would be fun to see CP's upper management's snit fit. It would be more fun to watch the replacement of that upper management after the next set of civil litigations against them brought on by the farmers....lol... Isn't railroading fun!

[Robin Matthysen]

Thanks for the update rsn48, I didn't realize how out of date I was so now we are clear. Another good reason to be on Trainboard as we can help each other.

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[Telegrapher]

Hi guys
up until a few months ago I thought I knew quite a bit about railroading. I am finding out that I know absolutely nothing, but thanks to all the people on TrainBoard I sure am learning. Colonel was right. This is almost like a second home.
Thanks

Dick

[BC Rail King]

CN, in its great wisdom, has decided as of late to rip out every second siding in the Fraser Canyon.

Question-

This area is prone to slides, heavy snow or needing heavy heavy maint. in areas. If the CPR line is out of service, all the trains will have to go on CNR track that only has half as many siding as it used to. A classic example of CNR logic for you!

Happy Railroading!

Dane N. http://www.trainboard.com/wink.gif

PS- The colour in that photo looks off, the scenery is greener, or greyer than that...... at least I thought

[This message has been edited by BC Rail King (edited 24 December 2000).]

[DaveCN5710]

Robin , another great picture smile.gif

I would like to go to work and look at territory like that everyday .

Simply beautiful .

[DaveCN5710]

Hey Robin , didn't CN have a big wreck there a few years ago ?

[rsn48]

Sorry about the delay in answering, although the question wasn't directed to me. Yes, there was a large accident in which track ballast etc was washed out, but left the track. Since the track was left in tact, dangling in the air, no alarms went off and the train went over it, killing the crew...it was CN I believe.

[DaveCN5710]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by rsn48:
Sorry about the delay in answering, although the question wasn't directed to me. Yes, there was a large accident in which track ballast etc was washed out, but left the track. Since the track was left in tact, dangling in the air, no alarms went off and the train went over it, killing the crew...it was CN I believe.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I think a SD75I was destroyed in that wreck as well , it may have been the CN 5753 ??Hang on , the CN 5753 was destroyed up by Montreal , it was the CN 5658 up there at Fraser Canyon .
:( :(

[Robin Matthysen]

Sorry for not responding before this Dave I missed the question but the response has been better than anything I knew. These days I do not come to Trainboard as often as I used to as I am working on my model railroad. Such is life, sometimes we get too many interests and not enough time to do any of them justice.