Wheel stops & Bumpers

[Peirce]

Wheel stops and bumpers come in a wide variety of shapes and sizes. I have pictures of some of the simpler ones, which I can post later. I am curious about this one, however, with the strange looking gizmos which seem to be there to trap the wheels of whatever hits it. Anybody have any details about its use?

http://images2.fotki.com/v2/photos/4/41513/84114/005_AN_UNUSUAL_WHEEL-STOP-vi.jpg

Sorry for the soft focus. I don't know what my autofocus was thinking.

[ 02. March 2004, 14:57: Message edited by: Peirce ]

[watash]

Peirce, those were just what you said. Usually placed at the end of alley stub sidings where a number of businesses have cars spotted. We each had "Hand-walkers" so we could move an empty car out from in front of our loading dock doorway, and bring the next one in to location for loading.

Occasionally someone down the line would get one going too fast and it would hit the bumpers and bounce back rolling back far enough to start another which started another, etc and soon there was a string of cars slowly rolling out across the street. Some one would holler, and one of us would have to run climb up and set the brakes. Can't do that now days with no ladders or roof walks. This kind of bumper kept the car from rolling back. It also captured the next car comming fast, because it would couple up.

[Alan]

Wayne, there must be something you don't know :rolleyes: Thanks for the description, a very clever, but simple solution smile.gif

[Big Al]

The extensions on the wheel stops also serve to use the weight of the first axle to keep the stops in place as an added bonus. I have seen many wheel stops fall over or slide back when struck by a car. This set-up would have a more positive stopping ability as well as preventing roll-back..

[Peirce]

Once a car is trapped by this gadangus, how easy is it to pull it off? :confused:

[watash]

It is easy to pull off with an engine, but can not be done with a wheel walker. The space between to dead stop and the check stop is enough to allow the car's weight to help with the momentum to ride up over the small check stops. I have seen an 0-6-0 slip when doing this if he did not set the car against the dead stops, then open her up to GO! It does make a loud CLANG when the car bounces into this thing at night when you are working and don't expect it. You don't hear a car slowly rolling.

[BN9900]

Alan, I second that, Wayne must know everything. Glad to have you aboard to help us all out. Thanks a Bunch! smile.gif

[Peirce]

Here is a true bumper. The manufacturer's name on the label is Hayes. That is Bill Britt, a volumteer member of the Danbury Railway Museum, doing the paint job.

http://images2.fotki.com/v2/photos/4/41513/84114/006_THIS_IS_A_TRUE_BUMPER-vi.jpg

[ 02. March 2004, 14:59: Message edited by: Peirce ]

[JosephFerris]

Peirce,

You said you have some photos of some of the simpler ones... Could you post a couple please? smile.gif

I would really like to see them.

Thanks,

Joseph

[Peirce]

Here are a couple of simpler wheel stops in place at the Danbury Railway Museum.

http://images2.fotki.com/v2/photos/4/41513/84114/003_ONE_OF_THE_MANY_STYLES-vi.jpg

http://images2.fotki.com/v2/photos/4/41513/84114/004_ONE_OF_MANY_STYLES_OF-vi.jpg

There are one or two even more simple in the DRM yard. I won't describe them until I photograph them.

[ 02. March 2004, 15:03: Message edited by: Peirce ]

[Alan]

Good photos Pierce! Just what I need on my model railroad smile.gif But I will wait to see the 'even simpler' ones smile.gif

[Peirce]

My next scheduled time at the DRM is on the 22nd of this month. I will try to take those shots at that time. Then it will merely be a matter of finishing the film and processing it.

[Peirce]

OK, here they are, extremely simple wheel stops.

Simple:
http://images.fotki.com/photos/4/41513/84114/036_ANOTHER_SIMPLE_WHEEL_S-vi.jpg?1012703914

Even more simple:
http://images.fotki.com/photos/4/41513/84114/037_YES_EVEN_A_PILE_OF_BA-vi.jpg?1012703998

These may keep them stopped, but won't do much to stop a moving rail car.

[ 03 February 2002, 02:51: Message edited by: Peirce ]

[JosephFerris]

I might go blind making those last ones in N Scale... tongue.gif

Joseph

[Alan]

Originally posted by Peirce:


http://images.fotki.com/photos/4/41513/84114/036_ANOTHER_SIMPLE_WHEEL_S-vi.jpg?1012703914
I think I will go with this type in some of my yard tracks. A bit small in N scale though :eek: But painted white or yellow they should stand out a bit!

[ 03 February 2002, 02:55: Message edited by: Peirce ]

[rush2ny]

Alan-
I do not have the current Model railroader in front of me, but there is a company advertising these wheel stops in both N-scale and HO scale near the back of the magazine. They look pretty nice but about as small as the ditch lights I purchased for my GP38's! If you do not get MRR I will look it up for you later. (Then again, you are quite the worker in resins yourself! ;) )
Happy Railroading guys!

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[Peirce]

Now, this is really inexpensive, this wheel is about three inches above the rail. Inexpensive, until you consider...

http://images.fotki.com/photos/4/41513/84254/032_ALMOST_BACK_ON_THE_RAI-vi.jpg?1012705102

... this is what is holding it up there.

http://images.fotki.com/photos/4/41513/84254/030_A_WIDE_VIEW_OF_LISIS-vi.jpg?1012705239

That is not your imagination. The crane truck (actually a huge wrecker) is off the ground too. It was totally supported by its outriggers when I shot this picture.

[ 03 February 2002, 03:02: Message edited by: Peirce ]

[Alan]

:D Nice one, Pierce! :D

[rush2ny]

That must be one of those new "air" stops. :D That's total air time!

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[phantom]

Just had to stick my nose in on this one. You for got one off the oldest wheel stops ever used in railroading. At least as far as I know. This bumper is found on a M of W siding in Silver Creek NY. :D

http://www.eznetbbs.tzo.com/temp/bumper1.JPG

Here is an idea for easy car bumper. I wanted something easy to make yet something that I could use on all my sidings for the most part, on my MRR. . I was wanting to keep some uniformity to them and here is the stop I used. There made of scrap rail and soldered into place. Please remember when your done soldering to cut at least one of the rails just in front of the bumper. If you don't it will short out the track! ( NOT GOOD!). These bumpers are sturdy and look nice. Best of all it takes less then 3 min. to make just one.

http://www.eznetbbs.tzo.com/temp/bumper2.JPG :D

[Peirce]

Phantom,
Your post did arrive twice. I deleted the second one for you.

Thanks for finding the tie bumper/stop. I knew there still had to be one somewhere. Where there were no electrical consideration, laying a piece of rail across the tracks was also used.

Your modeling idea is excellent.

[ROMAFERN]

This post has given me several ideas for my layout.
This site rocks!
:cool:

[rush2ny]

Hi all,
Sorry it took me so long to get back on this but as I said in my earlier post, there is a company that makes Hayes wheel stops for HO scale and N scale. The add is on page 132 of the october Model Railroader. The company that makes them is:

Tomar Industries
9520 E. Napier Avenue
Benton Harbor, MI 49022
Email:tomarup@juno.com

I have not seen the actual product and can not vouch for the company but after browsing throught this topic I would like to try some of these wheel stops on my layout. This was the only company I have seen advertising anything close.
I hope that this helps somebody. Hapyy Railroading!

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[Peirce]

This thread has now been repaired. The links to my pictures are again good.

[ 03 February 2002, 03:11: Message edited by: Peirce ]

[Peirce]

Here is one with an imaganative design, but is it a bumper or a wheel stop?

http://images2.fotki.com/v20/photos/4/41513/84259/Bumper-vi.jpg

[Peirce]

Johnny Trains sent a print of this to me to scan and post for him.

He writes this about it. "Here's a "bumper" located in Piqua, Ohio, on a small siding. If the dirt doesn't stop the train, the trees will!"
http://images3.fotki.com/v26/photos/4/41513/84588/bumperwithbackup-vi.jpg

This is the first time I have seen a bumper with a back-up system.

[ 06. June 2003, 05:22: Message edited by: Peirce ]

[Johnny Trains]

Peirce,

Thanks for posting my picture!

There is a derail on the other end. Those trains come 50 miles an hour on the mainline through Piqua right next to that siding! No accidents are needed with a large mall, not seen in the photo, right alongside the main, and the white building that's just visable on the right is a rather large motel! Also, there is a trestle over RT 36 just a few hundred feet past the siding.

About half a dozen covered hoppers are stored on the siding and small plastic pellets are unloaded by a vacuum (on a trailer), into large tanker-like trucks. It takes about 4 trucks to unload one car. The products I am told come from Texas and Southern area States. The funny thing is much of the stenciling on the cars is in English and French. I will have to look at the reporting marks and post them on TB because I'm thinking it's a Canadian leasing company. Once in a while the reporting marks are in Spanish too!

Thanks again to Peirce for posting that one!

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[Peirce]

Here is another one from Johnny Trains--a heavy-duty bumper for NJT light rail. This one looks like it is ready for a GG-1.
http://images3.fotki.com/v28/photos/4/41513/84588/NJTBumber-vi.jpg

JT found this in Hoboken.

[Peirce]

Here is still another design for a wheel stop.

http://images5.fotki.com/v61/photos/4/41513/687325/WheelStop-vi.jpg

[jasonboche]

I use these cast metal wheel stops and paint them yellow like the prototype and then glue them to the track:

http://www.boche.net/trains/2-29-04/000_0288.JPG

[Peirce]

Great to see a prototype item show up so nicely in the model world.

[Peirce]

Johnny Trains found another interesting bumper. This was found in Rome. JT will have more details for you.

http://images5.fotki.com/v63/photos/4/41513/84588/RomanBumper-vi.jpg

[Flash Blackman]

Here are some imagineered bumpers on my N scale layout. I had some extra ties lying around, so I made these. They seem okay, but no specific prototype, AFAIK. Actually, they seem too large as I look at some of the prototypes in the thread.
http://www.railimages.com/albums/robertblackman/agc.sized.jpg

Here are the small wheel stop types. They are just triangular bits if brass soldered to the rails. They will stop an N scale train, no problem! Probably the same for other scales as they are much more sturdy for their size than the prototype, and the cars are proportionally much lighter.
http://www.railimages.com/albums/robertblackman/agd.sized.jpg

These latter stops are somewhat of a hazard on the layout. If you look at the tips, they are sharp and thin. Unlike cast metal ones, they do not bend over when you strike them with your arm or elbow. I have had one pretty bad cut from these.

[Johnny Trains]

Hey, Flash!

Those are neat!

I think my "Roman Bumper" was the very first shot I took when we got off the plane!

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It was taken at the station, FIUMICINO AREOPORTO!

2/10/2000

Ciao!

[Peirce]

Hey, JT, you mean they stop planes, too? graemlins/headscratch.gif :D

[Johnny Trains]

Did I tell you I got in trouble at the airport?

I saw a guy I know and yelled..........

"HI, JACK!"

*drumroll*

[rush2ny]

Oh No! I guess that having the name Jack could cause problems at the airports! smile.gif

Russ

[Peirce]

I guess you will have to call him Mister Jack.

[bnBretski]

Sequoia Scale products makes nice wheel stops. We have several dozen of them on our HO modular layout. They look nice and work well (if they're glued on solidly enough!!) We paint them bright "safety" orange, but yellow as described in a previous post would work too; it depends on your prototype (or preference if you're freelancing). Sorry, I don't have any pictures, but Walthers website has drawings of them. They are made in HO, O, and N scales, parts no. 2005, 2007, and 2008 respectively. Walthers shows them out of stock, but I wouldn't think it would be too hard to find some.

[Peirce]

Still another one from Johnny Trains. He must have the largest collection of bumper pictures of anybody.

http://images5.fotki.com/v62/photos/4/41513/84588/BumperinCassjpg_-vi.jpg

[Johnny Trains]

I keep finding bumpers in my photo collection.

LOL!

I took that in Cass, West Virginia a few years ago!

Thanks for posting that one Peirce!

[Peirce]

Two more from Johnny Trains' endless collection:

DIRT STOP
http://images4.fotki.com/v45/photos/4/41513/84588/dirt_stop-vi.jpg

WOOD STOP
http://images5.fotki.com/v64/photos/4/41513/84588/Wood_stop-vi.jpg

[Johnny Trains]

Thanks again my friend!

The dirt one is from Piqua, Ohio.

The wood one is from Sidney, ohio.

[rush2ny]

I think that Peirce is correct when he says that Johnny has the largest collection of wheelstops and bumpers! Here are 3 more which, he can explain:

#1
http://www.railimages.com/albums/russellhoffman/abn.jpg

#2

http://www.railimages.com/albums/russellhoffman/abo.jpg

#3

http://www.railimages.com/albums/russellhoffman/abp.jpg

Russ

[Johnny Trains]

Thanks, Russ!

The first two shots were taken at the "L" line Rockaway Parkway station in Brooklyn. It's the last stop on the "L" and I guess you can tell by the trash, it isn't one of the best neighborhoods in the City. It's also home to the Canarsie Yard.

The 3rd shot was taken in Penn Station at a NJT track.

[Martyn Read]

The signal on the second pic would seem to be overkill! smile.gif But there are locations over here where similar odd things occur...

[William Cowie]

Here's another one. And for Flash's benefit: just to prove that there's a prototype for anything smile.gif I discovered this in the grand metropolis of Chinese Camp, CA, just outside of Yosemite:

http://www.railimages.com/albums/album11/abw.sized.jpg

http://www.railimages.com/albums/album11/abv.sized.jpg

http://www.railimages.com/albums/album11/abx.sized.jpg

[Flash Blackman]

Well, that should stop it, all right! Looks like it stopped the tank car. smile.gif