Real or Model?

[Paul Templar]

Real or Model? and why

http://members.trainorders.com/shamus/santanite.jpg

[This message has been edited by Paul Templar (edited 29 January 2001).]

[E-8]

Very nice photo. I'll guess model. I would say that the detail looks like very realistic model features. Thre fence in particular looks model (but very good.) A fine job but I say it is model railroading.

Charlie

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[HelgeK]

Another "real or model?"

http://hem.passagen.se/kri1938/f55_32.jpg
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[JLS]

An easy way to differentiate real railroads from model is to look at couplers (and trip pins). Obviously this one is a model, but the picture is real good and someone not in the hobby could take it for a prototype photo.

Nice work.

Jean-Louis Simonet
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[Alan]

Yup, the coupler and trip pin is the give-away http://www.trainboard.com/smile.gif But excellent modelling!

I hope my layout can progress to the "real or model" stage one day http://www.trainboard.com/biggrin.gif

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[Paul Templar]

Hi Guys, yep, it's HO, shall have to change the kadee or cut the pipe off.
thanks ol chaps

[dave f]

Send somemore photos like that.

[Paul Templar]

Hi,
Not quite like that, this is N-scale.
http://members.trainorders.com/shamus/pier.jpg

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For the benifit of those that may be interested in playing around on the computer to create this kind of magic, here;s how it's done.
The first job to do was remove the existing back scene, leaving the power cables intact.
http://members.trainorders.com/shamus/SF5.jpg

Then using various photographs from my collection, paste a new back ground behind.
If you want to have a try yourself, use this picture if you want, (Right click - save picture as) or do one of your own. If you do your own pictures, then your first task is to remove the back ground using the ERASER (Looks like a rubber) tool. This work can take quite a lot of time. (Well worth it in the end)
Okay, - load the picture into Adobe Photoshop or Paintshop Pro.

Select the magic wand tool and left click into top left of picture, now hold down shift and click into every available clear part. when finished go to SELECT and inverse the picture then save the selection from the SELECT button. Go to EDIT and copy the picture. Now minimize the picture. The reason you saved the picture was to be able to use it for another background later, just click on SELECT at a later date and re-load it.

Now open up another picture that you want to use as the background picture, The main picture is 608 by 431 pixels. make sure that the other picture you are going to use is the same size. If not then go to IMAGE and Image Size and re-size to 608 only, the rest will take care of it's self. Now go to EDIT and paste. Once the picture is in, use the MOVE TOOL and position the picture properly. NOW go to LAYER and flatten image.
All that remains is for you to save your new picture.

Here's another I finished.
http://members.trainorders.com/shamus/sunset.jpg
Well, my friends -- that's your lot. -- Have fun, after all -- Model Railroading is fun, so also is photography, when applied to model railroads.
Get the picture.


By the way, If you look at the original photo (TOP of page) you will notice that I also removed the two people and horse. They are back in the photo's above.


[This message has been edited by Paul Templar (edited 30 January 2001).]

[JLS]

Paul,

Ok, so that's half prototype and half model. You're cheating...

I'm good also at this kind of image manipulation...

Jean-Louis Simonet
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[Colonel]

ok Jean,
show us your stuff http://www.trainboard.com/smile.gif

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[Paul Templar]

Hi Jean-Louis, How are you, long time since we last talked friend. Hows your N-scale layout coming along?

Lets see some of your Photo trickery Jean-Louis. Then we can have a bit of fun. Or I'll provide the main photo and you put the computer magic into it, or vice versa. What do you say.

[watash]

How could you scan a photo of yourself, then put "you" in the engine waving at us?

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[Paul Templar]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by watash:
How could you scan a photo of yourself, then put "you" in the engine waving at us?

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Hi watash,
The same way as posted above, just get a photo of yourself waving, scan it in. Use photoshop or other and erase the everything around you.
then reduce the image size to what you require.
All explained above.
Here is a photo I did today, (A quicky) just to show you it could be done. The photo of me was in Black & White, taken years ago, but that doesn't matter. If you need further help, email me.
http://members.trainorders.com/shamus/climaxme.jpg

[Craig Martyn]

Very nice everyone!!

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[JLS]

Well! Here is an image that I have on hand. Not really a layout image (somewhat, anyway!). This was done using a photo of an unfinished part of my layout and an ID photo of myself.

http://perso.club-internet.fr/simonet/Jls.jpg

Don't know if it's what you are expecting. But, at least, you know what I look like.

When I have some time available, in the next few days, I'll work on a "real" layout photo, especially for you folks.

Jean-Louis Simonet
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[JLS]

OK folks,

You requested one. Here it is!
This picture was taken in downtown San Francisco (Chinatown) and you can see one of my Susquehanna Ontario & Western RR trains rolling down Sacramento Street at a walking pace. Of course the horn is blowing to warn all these reckless pedestrians.

http://perso.club-internet.fr/simonet/Montage.jpg

Some of you may wonder what this eastern road is doing in San Francisco. Just a run through train with mixed power (the UP units are right behind the SOW C44-9W).

This is, of course, an N scale scene and more info on the SOW can be found on the traiN'ternet site listed below.

Jean-Louis Simonet
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[watash]

Paul,
I almost missed you, that's what I was asking about. I was wondering if I could get photos full color, reduced to HO scale, then stand one up in or beside an engine, caboose, at a switch stand, etc, then take a photo of it, and have us actually standing beside the item? Looks like we can. Wouldn't that be neat? The little people photos would sure throw viewers off about it being real or not, because there you are! Thanks

Jean-Louis,
Wow! That would be fantastic if you were looking out the window of that #901 engine!

There used to be a Chinese place up there on Signal Hill, "The Emperess of China's Roof Garden" or something like that, where we used to go that had fantastic food and atmosphere. I enjoyed riding the cable cars too. Don't you know all those people are going to jump out of their skins when you blow the horn? HA! Thanks.

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[This message has been edited by watash (edited 31 January 2001).]

[Paul Templar]

This is real and model.How many photo's do you think it took to make this.
http://members.trainorders.com/shamus/forrest.jpg

website
http://www.badger-creek.co.uk

[ 01 February 2001: Message edited by: Paul Templar ]

[Gats]

Great manipulation, Jean-Louis. The lighting and shadowing is just about right on the locomotives to make it look as realistic as possible. Superb! smile.gif

[JLS]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Gats:
Great manipulation, Jean-Louis. The lighting and shadowing is just about right on the locomotives to make it look as realistic as possible. Superb! smile.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

GATS

The biggest difficulty with this kind of manipulation is to find two images that match together, in term of lighting and general setting, or to be able to modify one image to match the other (what I did somewhat).
Then there is the manipulation, itself, which require a lot of cutting and pasting, in order to have everything in the right plane (this is purely technical, but requires a good amount of work). At last is the work with shadows that need to be re-built, according to the scene. Also moving some parts of one image, in order to match the other (for example, the crossing gate in the case of this image, to be placed exactly where wanted).

To make a long story short, approximately two hours of work under Photoshop to get this image. But a lot of fun...

Let me know if you want another one.

Jean-Louis Simonet
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[fitz]

Is this real or model? Who are those simulated people? http://www.pioneer.net/~fitzrr/3751z.jpg :eek: :rolleyes: :D :confused:

[tunnel88]

Looks real life to me Fritz!

A classic steamer and a new Taurus in the background... who would have guessed! :D

[ChrisDante]

VERY NICE!!!!
Besides the coupler, etc. The lighting gives it away, how come the roofs of the buildings are so bright? And there are the shadows, where'd all that light come from on a night shot.
STILL ONE OF THE BEST I'VE SEEN, CONGRATULATIONS, looks like a lot of hard work.

[ 02 February 2001: Message edited by: ChrisDante ]