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JoeS
January 16th, 2005, 08:26 PM
Ok, I think there are some nice locos out there in Z. And I think there have been some nice pictures posted too. Thanks to those who have posted! smile.gif I thought I would just try and compare how the loco's run compared to some of the more common stuff in other scales. So many times people say it runs smooth, or it doesn't stall, or it creeps well, or maybe stalls on the turnouts only. I know this is all a bit subjective. However, it might help someone who is thinking of getting started in Z to choose what loco they might want.
For instance, and this is my opinion only, when I purchased the latest marklin mikado I was really suprised! It has very similar running characteristics to the HO bachman 4-8-4 that I brought I beleive in 1982. It is a much better runner than the old bachman N scale mikado, and beats it in every running comparison. It is not as good a runner as say a spectrum consolidation in N. But it is better than the old pre-spectrum bachman steam.
The micro-trains mogul. I have to say it runs very closely to the N scale bachman 0-6-0 with the slpoe back tender with the improved pickup that has been repacked in the plastic containers. These just came out a few months back. In fact I would say that is a very fair comparison as long as your track and wheels stay clean. Because of the tender pickups in the bachman, it gets the slightest of edges. However, it is a much much better runner hands down, than the old bachman 0-6-0 that came from the cardboard box.
The micro-trains F-7. This is a tough one to compare to. I really don't have an N that I can compare it too. I would have to say in some ways it is rather similar to the old bachman f-units in HO from the early 80's. Remeber those old heavy things that never really stalled and sounded like a grinder and seemed to take on any track condition? Well, that is how my Z f-7 is.
Again, these are my opinions, and mine only, yours may differ. But I thought it might help if I compared what I had to what most people know. At this point, I don't have any Z that runs like a new Atlas or Kato in N. However, I also don't own any of the new AZL stuff which I am told runs just like them. Anyway, if anybody has any other comparisons put them down, as I think this might help those not in Z understand it a little better. Thanks in advance to those who might add!

pray59
January 17th, 2005, 07:36 AM
I would say my Mikado's run as good as the old Atlas 0-8-0 in N Scale runs. The Pacific runs just as good however pulls mich more than the Mikado.
The AZL SD45 pulls very gook and runs as good as a Kato Mikado in N. The AZL F59PHI is comparable to the new Athearn F59PHI, as they are both made by Ajin, just different scales. All my MTL F7's run and pull great, and sound like coffee grinders.

-Robert :D

E-8
January 17th, 2005, 07:21 PM
Thanks for posting that information. That is helpful.

So, the Micro-Trains F7's are really good, or...?

Charlie

JoeS
January 17th, 2005, 09:39 PM
I wouldn't say the micro-trains F-7's are awsome, but they are not bad either. What they are, is consistant. They will run over some bad dirty track. This point amazed me really. They can pull every car I have and I am told they can pull as many as 50! They are loud though. I have cleaned, dissassembled, relubed and still, they are loud. I think that is just how they are. They are not jerky runners though. They can run at a constant speed, just loud. The slow speed performance is ok, it only has a 3 pole motor so I assume that has something to do with it. Again, that is why I compared them to the HO f units from the 80's by bachman. They just always seemed to run, they were a little loud, slow speed was ok, and you knew their might be better stuff out there, but you always knew they would run consistant. At least that was always my experience. ;)

Mike Sheridan
January 17th, 2005, 11:28 PM
My Marklin F's are real noisy too; but fairly quiet with the body shell off. Sounds like the F shape is noisy smile.gif

pray59
January 18th, 2005, 06:29 AM
Noisy as it is, the F7 is a staple of Z Scale locomotives. It is the locomotive of choice for Z Scale modular clubs too, just because of its performance.

Sunday morning on the Yahoo Z Chat, everyone was talking about the coming MTL GP35's, and everyone is wondering if they will be the puller that the F7 is. I hope it pulls like a mule, just like the F7. tongue.gif

William Cowie
January 18th, 2005, 10:43 AM
As for pulling, a cowl can cover more weight than a hood unit. Just a thought... smile.gif

E-8
January 18th, 2005, 06:15 PM
Great to hear that they are good.... a couple of them will pull a long train then I assume. smile.gif

Charlie

pray59
January 18th, 2005, 07:00 PM
Yes, 2 of them might pull 50 cars! :D