View Full Version : MILW EMD F7s pulling Hiawatha pasenger cars?

August 6th, 2008, 09:30 PM
Hello Everyone--

Does anyone know if F7A and F7B units in the "Hiawatha" color scheme (orange/maroon) ever pulled Hiawatha (orange/maroon) smoothside passenger cars?

Steve Williams

Kurt Moose
August 12th, 2008, 09:06 AM
There is a book about the MILW in the Dakota's, (can't remember the name right now), but there's a black and white photo showing the Olympian Hiawatha coming into a town in South Dakota with that color scheme on the F's, plus, i've seen other pic's. So that's a definite yes! With the MILW in the early to mid 50's, anything was possible!

Mr. SP
August 12th, 2008, 01:03 PM
EMD FP7's definately pulled the Hiawatha trains. There are several photo in the Milwaukee Road book by Fred Hyde showing an FP unit or two on a MILW passenger train. The FP's were often run with E units too.Later the FP45's also ran with E's and FP7's

Kurt Moose
August 13th, 2008, 06:50 AM
Also, in the vol. #5, "The Pacific Extension 1941-1961" by William F. Stauss, pg.70 shows
FP-7's 105-c and 105-a arriving Spokane with a matching Olympian Hi, but they only worked between Deer Lodge and Othello 1952-1954 when the passenger GP-9's took over.

August 13th, 2008, 04:55 PM
Yes. The FP units were obviously used. But, the question was of the F7A&B units.

Boxcab E50

Kurt Moose
August 14th, 2008, 03:51 AM
Looking back thru the book,(which, by the way, is awesome!! Best one yet!:teeth:), there are alot of photo's with maroon and orange F's pulling passenger trains, but some I can't make out if they are F's or FP's. Probably will have to pull out a roster of engines and see if there are footnotes if any standard F's came with steam boilers, factory installed or otherwise.